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Old Sep 4th 2018 | 9:47 am
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I'm considering arranging a Christmas holiday to Cuba for myself (Dual US UK passport holder), my wife (Green card holder with Form I-751, Petition to Remove Conditions still under consideration - submitted in March 2016 so hopefully will get 10 year green card soon!) and our son (Dual US UK passport holder),

A few questions - has anyone on here traveled to Cuba from the US? If so was it straightforward? I know that good old Trump changed policy on travel to Cuba so it maybe too problematic to travel there. Would all of us traveling on UK passports from the US make it easier? Would travelling to Cuba pose any issues for my wife as she is a Green Card holder?

I'm think I know the answers to the above questions and that, for the time being, travel to Cuba for us from the US is not possible but thought I'd see if anyone on here has actual experience of doing so..

Thanks in advance!
 
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Travel to Cuba is possible for USCs and LPRs but only if the purpose of travel falls into one of 12 specific categories. Lying on a beach or sightseeing do not fall into those categories. I don't know what you mean by "Trump has made it more difficult" - the only change he has made is that the humanitarian "people-to-people" category is now only available to organized escorted tour groups as this was previously a "loophole" where you didn't have to be part of an organized project, you just had to say "I'm going to help in a school" or something and people would do this for one hour of their whole trip. Now the rule is that you have to be part of an organized, structured project and work on the project in a full-time capacity during your stay. If you're interested in participating in a project like that, there are organizations who can assist with placing you in a project and organising the necessary paperwork for travel permission and will also assist with booking your flights, etc.

Note that the travel restrictions apply to all USCs and all who live in the USA, whether they are USCs or not and regardless of whether they intend to become USCs or not.
 
Old Sep 4th 2018 | 3:53 pm
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Originally Posted by wolfft
I'm considering arranging a Christmas holiday to Cuba for myself (Dual US UK passport holder), my wife (Green card holder with Form I-751, Petition to Remove Conditions still under consideration - submitted in March 2016 so hopefully will get 10 year green card soon!) and our son (Dual US UK passport holder),

A few questions - has anyone on here traveled to Cuba from the US? If so was it straightforward? I know that good old Trump changed policy on travel to Cuba so it maybe too problematic to travel there. Would all of us traveling on UK passports from the US make it easier? Would travelling to Cuba pose any issues for my wife as she is a Green Card holder?

I'm think I know the answers to the above questions and that, for the time being, travel to Cuba for us from the US is not possible but thought I'd see if anyone on here has actual experience of doing so..

Thanks in advance!
You are asking for trouble ! Plenty of other islands in the Caribbean if you want sun and beaches, but I must admit I'd love to see Cuba if it wasn't for US restrictions.
 
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Originally Posted by Twinkle0927
Travel to Cuba is possible for USCs and LPRs but only if the purpose of travel falls into one of 12 specific categories. Lying on a beach or sightseeing do not fall into those categories. I don't know what you mean by "Trump has made it more difficult" - the only change he has made is that the humanitarian "people-to-people" category is now only available to organized escorted tour groups as this was previously a "loophole" where you didn't have to be part of an organized project, you just had to say "I'm going to help in a school" or something and people would do this for one hour of their whole trip. Now the rule is that you have to be part of an organized, structured project and work on the project in a full-time capacity during your stay. If you're interested in participating in a project like that, there are organizations who can assist with placing you in a project and organising the necessary paperwork for travel permission and will also assist with booking your flights, etc.

Note that the travel restrictions apply to all USCs and all who live in the USA, whether they are USCs or not and regardless of whether they intend to become USCs or not.
It's sexy to blame anything and everything on Trump, but as you noted not much has changed.

There are ways around it and the Cubans know that Americans face penalties for visiting the island, and supposedly facilitate those ways around it.

An unauthorised visit is sanctions-running, and it is a very stiff fine and possible jail time if you do that. Not worth it unless for very specific purposes, and if for very specific purposes, you can probably just go through the process and get the authorisation.

Plenty of authorisations are granted and there are heaps of daily flights from Miami to Havana.

Concur with the others, go to the Bahamas.
 
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Agree, possible but nothing much has changed over the many years I have been here.
 
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I know lots of Americans vacationing in Cuba over the last two years. Trump's policy hasn't stopped them. They come and go on their US Passports. Some on cruise ships, i.e. Viking Ocean Cruises, and some by plane from neighboring islands and/or from the US, itself. Personally, I can't see the draw to go to Cuba but many USC's and Canadian do (my daughter-in-law and her kids go once every two years). If I want to see poverty, I can visit some areas of the NYC.
 
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We cruised to Cuba this summer with Norwegian.

You will need a Cuba visa from their embassy for $75. When we got to Havana we were free to travel where we wanted in the time we had. We had to sign a US form declaring why we visited Cuba, we marked "helping the Cuba people" or something like that.

On our return Miami's US border control was no problem, they could not care less. They only wanted to know if we were bring back alcohol. My son, who went with us is in the US Air Force and had to report the trip before going. He had no problem with his chain of command.

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Excellent timed post! I'm Brit/US national living here in Florida and my American born lady partner and a group of her girlfriend/work colleagues set sail to the Keys then Cuba this weekend for an 'educational' visit,...well thats what she told me! I'll try and remember to give you all an update next week on her adventure.
 
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Some people are buying cheap houses and condos in Havana, which is now possible. However you need a Cuban front man. I personally think anyone would be crazy to invest in a communist country, let alone invest in one that requires a front man to be the official "purchaser."

With Cuban-US relations, one also needs to factor in that the populations have changed but the governments have not changed with it. What I mean is, the 1950s generation in South Florida who held out hopes that they could some day get their expropriated properties or farms back, have died out, and their grandchildren feel nothing more than a historical connection with Cuba (and have no intention of leaving Florida, where they are now fully integrated). This has created a much different political dynamic; the "Cuban vote" that was so essential to Reagan and Bush and drove Florida politics for decades, has changed very, very dramatically.

The Embargo is a bureaucratic heirloom handed down from one American government to the next, with no rhyme, reason, or rationale for its continued existence, and there is little to no popular support for it in the United States. But in the current political and media climate it won't change.

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