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anabella Jan 31st 2007 11:14 am

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Ahh.. the Macdonalisation of Society... Sociology was always my favourite subject at Uni..

TouristTrap Jan 31st 2007 11:15 am

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Originally Posted by Ransi (Post 4348275)
Shirley Valentine

(Pauline Collins)

Fanks muchly. Came back to me when I was peeling the taters earlier.

Love that movie :):)

Leslie Jan 31st 2007 11:47 am

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Originally Posted by Ransi (Post 4348275)
Shirley Valentine

(Pauline Collins)

That was a great film. :cool:

Scarlett-Dallas Feb 1st 2007 1:32 am

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Originally Posted by Leslie66 (Post 4347390)
I'd like to see some valid evidence produced to prove this (idiotic )statement. :rolleyes:

It's not idiotic. Many words and phrases in the first book were changed for the US market--for changed read simplified. Before we moved here, hubby used to read his US version to my girls over the net. We were following in our (UK) book. The changes were frequent and almost all of them were about taking a not very difficult word or phrase and making it much simpler. I found it all rather worrying!

Regards
-=-
Scarlett

Scarlett-Dallas Feb 1st 2007 1:37 am

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Originally Posted by snowbunny (Post 4347526)
Did you miss out what I said about the HP books becoming less and less "Americanised" over time? The most recent book has little more than the usual spelling changes (colour/color). Even esoterica like chipolatas stay in, and HP fans take pleasure in learning about them -- after all, if you are interested in learning the ins and outs of a fictional world, it's no great leap to learn about a "real" one.

I think it was safe to change less later on when Rowling had gathered such a fan base. It wasn't safe--apparently--in the early days.

Also, it's a sad fact of publishing that when an author is new and untried, their books are edited heavily, usually with good results. As they get more of a name, they get more control over the editing process. The result is often sloppier later books that are much longer--much less edited. Think about some of the major authors you know, and ask yourself whether quality has suffered and the pagination increased over time. Isn't true in every case but holds true for many. A divergent point, but an interesting one.
:)
Regards
-=-
Scarlett

Reverend Feb 1st 2007 2:24 am

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Originally Posted by Scarlett-Dallas (Post 4350284)
I think it was safe to change less later on when Rowling had gathered such a fan base. It wasn't safe--apparently--in the early days.

Also, it's a sad fact of publishing that when an author is new and untried, their books are edited heavily, usually with good results. As they get more of a name, they get more control over the editing process. The result is often sloppier later books that are much longer--much less edited. Think about some of the major authors you know, and ask yourself whether quality has suffered and the pagination increased over time. Isn't true in every case but holds true for many. A divergent point, but an interesting one.
:)
Regards
-=-
Scarlett


Stephen King would be a great example of this...I swear I'm the only person in the world who thinks this self important, pretentious rambler is seriously overrated.

gsnichol Feb 1st 2007 3:30 am

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Originally Posted by snowbunny (Post 4347380)

And that's the only title that has been changed.

Lots of examples, not just Harry Potter. Bill Bryson's books have different titles - Down Under became something else, perhaps because Australia isn't Down Under relative to the USA, but others have different titles too (oddly he's not really popular here, at least no-one I have spoken to reads his books). I recently read a Ken Follett novel set in Scotland. The book was littered with Americanisms which you'd never hear in the Highlands; it does spoil the atmosphere a little.

Jerseygirl Feb 1st 2007 3:47 am

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Originally Posted by gsnichol (Post 4350568)
Lots of examples, not just Harry Potter. Bill Bryson's books have different titles - Down Under became something else, perhaps because Australia isn't Down Under relative to the USA, but others have different titles too (oddly he's not really popular here, at least no-one I have spoken to reads his books). I recently read a Ken Follett novel set in Scotland. The book was littered with Americanisms which you'd never hear in the Highlands; it does spoil the atmosphere a little.

The name of the book I have by BB is In a Sunburnt Country.

gsnichol Feb 1st 2007 3:49 am

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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 4350649)
The name of the book I have by BB is In a Sunburnt Country.

That would be Down Under... Notes from a Big Country is (I think) called I'm a Stranger Here Myself. etc etc etc

Big Vern Feb 2nd 2007 4:00 am

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They also had the name of the James Bond movie "Licence Revoked" changed to "Licensed To Kill" as the market research showed that many Americans didn't understand the word "Revoked"....

Big Vern Feb 2nd 2007 4:01 am

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The Philip Pullman book "Northern Lights" is called "the Golden Compass" over here -- presumably the movie will be too.

another bloody yank Feb 2nd 2007 4:12 am

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Originally Posted by Big Vern (Post 4355015)
The Philip Pullman book "Northern Lights" is called "the Golden Compass" over here -- presumably the movie will be too.

Let me guess!

It's because we can't understand the concept of "North"!

What do I win?:)

Sarah Feb 2nd 2007 4:16 am

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Originally Posted by Reverend (Post 4350389)
Stephen King would be a great example of this...I swear I'm the only person in the world who thinks this self important, pretentious rambler is seriously overrated.

No I think he's shit too.

SecretGarden Feb 2nd 2007 8:52 am

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Originally Posted by Big Vern (Post 4355007)
research showed that many Americans didn't understand the word "Revoked"....

Aw, come on.....I find this very hard to believe! Lots of us stoooopid Americans have probably seen the words "license revoked" on our court papers!

:p

~SecretGarden

Leslie Feb 2nd 2007 9:00 am

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Originally Posted by SecretGarden (Post 4356399)
Aw, come on.....I find this very hard to believe! Lots of us stoooopid Americans have probably seen the words "license revoked" on our court papers!

:p

~SecretGarden

wots a lichense m8 ? :confused:


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