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Old Sep 16th 2016, 4:59 pm
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Originally Posted by mrken30
That is true, but life generally moves on , not back. But unless things change a lot, if you were unhappy enough to leave, you will probably feel the same after a while if you move back. No point in being unhappy, life is too short.

How long should you keep answering questions for from ex co-workers once you leave a company? I am still getting questions well over a year since leaving.
There are far more reasons that folks "move on" than simply because they are unhappy. Many leave for other reasons and later see that as a mistake.
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One doesn't always leave jobs because they are unhappy.

I stop all contact with old computer workers as soon as I am gone.



Originally Posted by mrken30
That is true, but life generally moves on , not back. But unless things change a lot, if you were unhappy enough to leave, you will probably feel the same after a while if you move back. No point in being unhappy, life is too short.

How long should you keep answering questions for from ex co-workers once you leave a company? I am still getting questions well over a year since leaving.
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Some visas specify that repatriation costs must be covered by the employer if/when the employment ends.
H1 only that a flight home for the primary. Doesn't include the family or the stuff. L1 doesn't have that stipulation.

Negotiating a repatriation package and other costs is a good idea. It makes you less attractive to let go over the person in the next cubicle/office who does not, so does offer a bit more job security than if you didn't have it.
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Never answer questions from ex co workers.

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Originally Posted by Noorah101
Never answer questions from ex co workers.

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Does this create bad feelings with your former employer? Do you feel it burns bridges if you ever want to go back?
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Originally Posted by mrken30
Why would you leave a company if you had intentions of going back. Normally if it gets to the place where I want to leave a company, there is good reason and those reasons will still be there if I go back.
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Many of my colleagues have left and come back. It seems to be the best way to boost your salary as you can get a bigger pay-hike if you're hired from outside than if you switch jobs internally, when rises are capped by HR policy. It is also not uncommon for external hires to quit after a couple of years to go back to the company they came from.
Indeed.

In the US, it seems that some people simply job hop to increase their title and/or compensation. I know of a number of people who worked for my employer and were due for a promotion, but repeatedly didn't get it, so they left the company to work for a competitor (with an immediate promotion), and then came back to my employer a few years later with the better job title and higher compensation.

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Standard practice out of courtesy to the employer is 2 weeks. ...
Two weeks is the "standard" (but unofficial) policy at my employer for US employees. Employees in other countries usually have longer notice periods.

Originally Posted by mrken30
... How long should you keep answering questions for from ex co-workers once you leave a company? I am still getting questions well over a year since leaving.
Originally Posted by Jsmth321
... I stop all contact with old computer workers as soon as I am gone.
Originally Posted by Noorah101
Never answer questions from ex co workers. ...
If I liked working for the team/company, I might answer a few questions, but after that, I'd start sending them bills for my time (or at least inform them that I would).
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Originally Posted by mrken30
That is true, but life generally moves on , not back. But unless things change a lot, if you were unhappy enough to leave, you will probably feel the same after a while if you move back. No point in being unhappy, life is too short.

How long should you keep answering questions for from ex co-workers once you leave a company? I am still getting questions well over a year since leaving.
I know of plenty of instances where not closing doors behind you has paid off. You don't have to be unhappy to leave a company...it may be because you are moving area or you have been offered a better job etc. Even if you are unhappy...leaving all doors open can still pay off. Only a fool would burn all bridges/close all doors.
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
I know of plenty of instances where not closing doors behind you has paid off. You don't have to be unhappy to leave a company...it may be because you are moving area or you have been offered a better job etc. Even if you are unhappy...leaving all doors open can still pay off. Only a fool would burn all bridges/close all doors.
I agree. In my office (civil engineering firm), I've repeatedly seen employees (including upper management) leave of their own accord to pursue other offers elsewhere....then come back and get employed at our company again a few years later at a higher salary and perhaps a higher level position. Very, very common.

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Originally Posted by mrken30
How long should you keep answering questions for from ex co-workers once you leave a company? I am still getting questions well over a year since leaving.
Originally Posted by Noorah101
Never answer questions from ex co workers.
Originally Posted by cautiousjon
If I liked working for the team/company, I might answer a few questions, but after that, I'd start sending them bills for my time (or at least inform them that I would).
Originally Posted by mrken30
Does this create bad feelings with your former employer? Do you feel it burns bridges if you ever want to go back?
mrken30,

I assumed you meant nosey-type questions from previous co-workers, wanting to know why you left and what happened, etc. That's none of their business, and I wouldn't discuss it.

But reading further replies, it seems perhaps you meant work-related questions about the job you used to do, as in the remaining employees need help and are asking you those type of questions. Is that what you meant? If so, I'd answer maybe a few weeks after leaving...or until you know someone else is now doing your old job if it's not too long after you leaving...but after that I'd talk to your old manager and say "It seems like you still need my expertise over there...I'd be happy to come back as a subcontractor to help out on an as-needed basis". Of course, if that doesn't conflict with your current job.

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My old manager left at the same time as me, actually my whole team has now left the company. Outsourcing is great.
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Originally Posted by Noorah101
, it seems perhaps you meant work-related questions about the job you used to do, as in the remaining employees need help and are asking you those type of questions. Is that what you meant? If so, I'd answer maybe a few weeks after leaving...or until you know someone else is now doing your old job if it's not too long after you leaving...but after that I'd talk to your old manager and say "It seems like you still need my expertise over there...I'd be happy to come back as a subcontractor to help out on an as-needed basis". Of course, if that doesn't conflict with your current job. ....
I have rarely been contacted by former colleagues after I left a job, but after one job I left back in the 1990's, I was contacted a number of times, perhaps as many as a dozen, and it was about two years before I was contacted the last time - but by then I was no help, but had in fact changed jobs a second time and they still tracked me down!

All the questions related to the resolution of problematic customer service cases, and individuals not corporations so I was happy to help as far as I could - none took more than a couple of minutes to answer, and there was no conflict with my subsequent jobs.

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