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Old Feb 9th 2014, 11:24 pm
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There is a lot of inaccurate information on here.

Firstly an E2 visa holder is a 'temporary citizen' and even though you may pay social security you will not be entitled to a US state pension.

As a rule of thumb you need to invest at least $150k and employ 1 / 2 Americans to ensure your E2 Visa gets renewed.

L1 - your UK business needs to be at least turning over £250k plus and have a manager in place.....you can sell your UK business once you have citizenship ...18mths or so after US business starts

Moral Turpitude question is easy....if your 'crime' is morally wrong its going to be an issue.. HOWEVER THE USCIS does NOT have access to your COURT records so this is VERY difficult to enforce. even ACPO can show nothing even if you may have done something years ago...again boarder control computer DOES NOT have access to this...I obtained a B2 Visa to see what info they can access...very little...

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Originally Posted by Sportychico
There is a lot of inaccurate information on here.
Yes, isn't there? It is annoying when people post inaccurate info, but at least the forum pros will always be along shortly after it's posted to correct it.
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Originally Posted by Sportychico
There is a lot of inaccurate information on here.

Firstly an E2 visa holder is a 'temporary citizen' and even though you may pay social security you will not be entitled to a US state pension.

As a rule of thumb you need to invest at least $150k and employ 1 / 2 Americans to ensure your E2 Visa gets renewed.

L1 - your UK business needs to be at least turning over £250k plus and have a manager in place.....you can sell your UK business once you have citizenship ...18mths or so after US business starts

Moral Turpitude question is easy....if your 'crime' is morally wrong its going to be an issue.. HOWEVER THE USCIS does NOT have access to your COURT records so this is VERY difficult to enforce. even ACPO can show nothing even if you may have done something years ago...again boarder control computer DOES NOT have access to this...I obtained a B2 Visa to see what info they can access...very little...

Any other questions just ask
What's your point?

You are correct, there is some inaccurate information posted here, but the forum is very good at self-correcting.

BTW, on an unrelated point, you can't get from an L1 visa to citizenship in "18 months". You need to get from L1 to PR (green card), and then hold the green card for five YEARS (technically less 90 days) before you can apply for citizenship.

There is no such thing as a "temporary citizen". An E-2 visa holder is a "non immigrant" plain and simple, and every thread I have ever seen on BE makes that very specifically clear. You will not be a citizen, and not be a permanent resident, and there is no path from an E-2 to even become a permanent resident, and therefore any mention of citizenship is misleading whether or not you put it in quotation marks.

Also, are you advocating lying in visa applications? If so, that is indeed appallingly bad advice of the worst sort!

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Originally Posted by Sportychico
There is a lot of inaccurate information on here.

Firstly an E2 visa holder is a 'temporary citizen' and even though you may pay social security you will not be entitled to a US state pension.

As a rule of thumb you need to invest at least $150k and employ 1 / 2 Americans to ensure your E2 Visa gets renewed.

L1 - your UK business needs to be at least turning over £250k plus and have a manager in place.....you can sell your UK business once you have citizenship ...18mths or so after US business starts

Moral Turpitude question is easy....if your 'crime' is morally wrong its going to be an issue.. HOWEVER THE USCIS does NOT have access to your COURT records so this is VERY difficult to enforce. even ACPO can show nothing even if you may have done something years ago...again boarder control computer DOES NOT have access to this...I obtained a B2 Visa to see what info they can access...very little...

Any other questions just ask
and this post is also inaccurate

E2 is non immigrant not temporary citizen, no such thing
L1 , amount is wrong, manager quote is wrong, you become a permanent resident first and a citizen after 5 years.the 18 months is also inaccurate

the only thing you got correct is that there IS a lot of wrong info posted
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Originally Posted by Sportychico
There is a lot of inaccurate information on here.
Correct... such as the shit you just posted!


Firstly an E2 visa holder is a 'temporary citizen'...
There's no such thing. Were you born spouting idiotic concepts, or did that happen later?


... you can sell your UK business once you have citizenship ...18mths or so after US business starts
Bzzzt... Wrong! Are you sure you know anything at all about US immigration?


Moral Turpitude question is easy...
Bzzzt... Wrong! Okay - this wins the "most idiotic" comment of the week!


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PMSL I knew someone would call it straight pretty soon and my money WAS on Ian :-)
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Originally Posted by Flabound oneday
PMSL I knew someone would call it straight pretty soon and my money WAS on Ian :-)
Ditto! Hence my rather tongue in cheek comment about inaccurate info after seeing that lot posted, I knew somebody would soon be along to correct it.
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Originally Posted by Sportychico

Firstly an E2 visa holder is a 'temporary citizen' and even though you may pay social security you will not be entitled to a US state pension.
I love the way the OP talks about inaccurate information and then proves the point wonderfully. It must be an ironic post.

Just the most obvious issues with this trollish post

E2 is a non-immigrant visa.......what on Earth is a "temporary citizen"?

Anyone with 10 years of FICA payments qualifies for US SS. There are some restrictions on the countries where this can be paid though.

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by using the term temporary citizen it was meant to highlight that your status is temporary and youre not entititled to social security / pension payments...FACT

secondly I don't condone lying.... I was pointing out that USCIS / boarder control does NOT have access to UK court records...lawyers spend their life being economical with the truth and bending the rules within the confines of the law..FACT

L1 - within 18 months you can obtain GREEN CARD (not citizenship)...you can then sell your UK business....meaning if you can qualify - £250k at least turnover, staff in place including a MANAGER you can then sell it once you have Green Card. Set up a 'S' Corp and become an 'EXECUTIVE' - this holding company can then set up a US business or buy a business....simple


ALL of the above is correct.... thank you for taking the time to read
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Originally Posted by Sportychico
.... ALL of the above is correct extremely confusing. ....
FIFY

Edit: I have just been to have a look at your posting history and almost every post you have made on BE is misleading and often down-right dangerous uninformed twaddle.

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Originally Posted by Sportychico
secondly I don't condone lying.... I was pointing out that USCIS / boarder control does NOT have access to UK court records...lawyers spend their life being economical with the truth and bending the rules within the confines of the law..FACT
USCIS / CBP do not have routine access to UK criminal records. They can request them if required and will be supplied them.

L1 - within 18 months you can obtain GREEN CARD (not citizenship)...you can then sell your UK business....meaning if you can qualify - £250k at least turnover, staff in place including a MANAGER you can then sell it once you have Green Card. Set up a 'S' Corp and become an 'EXECUTIVE' - this holding company can then set up a US business or buy a business....simple
You're a ****in' idiot. Please stop posting this bullshit.
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Originally Posted by Sportychico
by using the term temporary citizen it was meant to highlight that your status is temporary and youre not entititled to social security / pension payments...FACT

secondly I don't condone lying.... I was pointing out that USCIS / boarder control does NOT have access to UK court records...lawyers spend their life being economical with the truth and bending the rules within the confines of the law..FACT

L1 - within 18 months you can obtain GREEN CARD (not citizenship)...you can then sell your UK business....meaning if you can qualify - £250k at least turnover, staff in place including a MANAGER you can then sell it once you have Green Card. Set up a 'S' Corp and become an 'EXECUTIVE' - this holding company can then set up a US business or buy a business....simple


ALL of the above is correct.... thank you for taking the time to read
Would have been much better to have made sure your first post didn't contain so many inaccuracies, and also to have stated that you didn't, under any circumstances, condone lying on a visa form. Your post would then be OK by BE guidelines that forbid any posts that promote any illegal act.
Proof reading your post would also have thrown up the fact that you spelt 'border' as 'boarder', two somewhat different things.
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Originally Posted by mikelincs
Would have been much better to have made sure your first post didn't contain so many inaccuracies, and also to have stated that you didn't, under any circumstances, condone lying on a visa form..

Yet the OP's statement that "I obtained a B2 Visa to see what info they can access...very little..." suggests they engaged in immigration fraud.
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
There is no such thing as a "temporary citizen". An E-2 visa holder is a "non immigrant" plain and simple, and every thread I have ever seen on BE makes that very specifically clear. You will not be a citizen, and not be a permanent resident, and there is no path from an E-2 to even become a permanent resident
S Folinsky informed me last week that our collective view on this was incorrect.
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showp...0&postcount=16
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Thank you for all comments...

The points are simple;

1) If you have committed a crime that is morally wrong you will be unable to gain entry - murder, drug trafficking, rape, leaving a scene of road traffic accident etc...

2) if you have committed a minor crime like being in bar brawl or gluing your ex girlfriend's front door keyhole you will be granted entry....

3) my Visa (L1 / E2) advice is 100% accurate. The issue is most people on here don't seek AND PAY FOR proper advice from well respected lawyers....
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