Manc

I often hear people saying they use their US passport to leave the USA

I've yet to go through passport control or immigration whilst leaving the USA.

sir_eccles

You check into your flight right?

Jerseygirl

That is correct but it doesn't mean they have to give up their UK PP.

Many of us 'dualies' leave and enter the US using our US PP...as required. We enter the UK using our UK PP and leave the UK using our US PP.

Manc

since when is the $12 per hour Delta checkin staff passport control?

I suspect that the airlines would prefer you to use your UK passport when checking in or a flight to the UK as then it shows you do have the right to enter Britain and won't be sent back (possibly at their expense).

meauxna

When they send the flight manifest information to the feds.

Jerseygirl

When you buy your ticket you have to give your PP details to the airline. AFAIK the airline then passes the details on to Homeland Security (or whatever dept it's called) for security checks. When you check-in your PP is swiped and the passenger list with your details on is sent onto the UK before the plane leaves the US. Likewise when you leave the UK to fly to the US.

The reason why tickets booked within 7 days of the flight are so much more expensive is because they have to rush the security checks through.

Manc

again...

it's neither passport control or immigration.

Manc

that's to see if you're going to pack semtex in your skiddies...........

Manc

again, you can show a bangladeshi passport if you have one to leave the USA, as it doesn't give a toss because there is no immigration or passport control on leaving the USA.

if you've a Visa waiver form in your passport some airline lacky takes that, no-one even remotely near to federal........

meauxna

So what? It gets turned over to DHS. Same-same.

Manc

why would a US citizen or GC holder or dual national have a visa waiver form???


not same same at all.


there are no exit controls for USA / dual citizens at airports or the like.


otherwisde there would be an exit control to check people leaving Detroit on the Ambassador bridge..........

but there isn't.

sir_eccles

I wrote a whole thing about the APIS system and exit controls in the US, clearly you didn't bother to read it.

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=719375

Manc

again..........

we're talking about exit controls here for dual nationals no?

not people who have overstayed.


there is no APIS or exit control for people leaving the USA through the Windsor tunnel.

you just drive to Canada.............

meauxna

As usual, you drag a simple conversation (simple for the OP to understand) all over the planet. So it's not "exit controls" the way you are thinking of them, with a little booth and a government goon. I still say, "so what?". The data about which passport you exited the US on is still handed over to the US government, which has said that you must exit on your US passport.
It seems pretty basic to me.

Manc

Your mistaking checking in for an international flight as the same as leaving the country.
it's just checking in.

you can turn around and walk out the airport and never get on the flight........... you never left the country.

semantics I know.
but it is NOT the same.
What's US-VISIT? the pilot program, that's an exit control for visitors no?
but not for dul nationals or US citizens?