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Old May 31st 2009 | 2:49 am
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Originally Posted by rebs
Bishop Desmond Tutu - a 2:2
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Old May 31st 2009 | 6:05 am
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Bishop Desmond Tutu - a 2:2
I'd never heard that....classic!
 
Old May 31st 2009 | 6:16 am
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Just to add, many of the competitive graduate jobs require you to have a 2:1. It would be more difficult to find a job that places importance on good academics with a 2:2.
 
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Originally Posted by Mummy in the foothills
Do you know what an A 2:2 Degree is?
Also what would an 4 year BA degree from US be classed as in UK?
Thanks in advance ladies and gents.
I'm finding info for my oldest who asks me random questions I have no idea about
FYI:

According to the UK government's 1997 National Committee of Inquiry into Higher Education (Dearing Report):

"The American high school diploma compares in standard with GCSE and the
associate degree with GCE A-level and Advanced GNVQ, the bachelor’s degree with a UK pass degree or higher national diploma and the Master’s degree with a bachelor’s honours degree from a British university."
 
Old May 31st 2009 | 8:07 am
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Wow!! does that mean my 2:2 BSc Hons is the same as a Masters???
 
Old May 31st 2009 | 10:02 am
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Old May 31st 2009 | 10:30 am
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Originally Posted by bilbos92
Wow!! does that mean my 2:2 BSc Hons is the same as a Masters???
Not in most people's books, I don't think. I didn't realise teh Dearing report had that sort of statement in it, but generally-speaking in practice that is incorrect.
 
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Originally Posted by Muswell Hill
FYI:

According to the UK government's 1997 National Committee of Inquiry into Higher Education (Dearing Report):

"The American high school diploma compares in standard with GCSE and the
associate degree with GCE A-level and Advanced GNVQ, the bachelor’s degree with a UK pass degree or higher national diploma and the Master’s degree with a bachelor’s honours degree from a British university."
From my experience this could be open to some negotiation. I came back from America with a high school diploma and was accepted into University in England (although with a little bit of convincing i'd be ok) - they didn't make me do any intermediate steps like AS/A Levels. It's hard to understand why a HS diploma would only be worth GCSE's

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Old May 31st 2009 | 12:23 pm
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Originally Posted by pineapple2oo9
From my experience this could be open to some negotiation. I came back from America with a high school diploma and was accepted into University in England (although with a little bit of convincing i'd be ok) - they didn't make me do any intermediate steps like AS/A Levels. It's hard to understand why a HS diploma would only be worth GCSE's
Conversely, one of my close friends got high marks in her matric (sp?) in SA and was told she had to do A levels as recently as a few years ago when she came to the UK and when a member of my family was studying in his first year of "A" levels in 95, his parents showed a geology teacher at Brum Uni the work he was expected to do and the teacher said that it was along the lines of what he expected his first year undergraduates to do, not a sixth form student. GCSEs roughly being a GED/HSD doesn't surprise me at all.

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Old May 31st 2009 | 12:32 pm
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Originally Posted by ellimere
Conversely, one of my close friends got high marks in her matric (sp?) in SA and was told she had to do A levels as recently as a few years ago when she came to the UK and when a member of my family was studying in his first year of "A" levels in 95, his parents showed a geology teacher at Brum Uni the work he was expected to do and the teacher said that it was along the lines of what he expected his first year undergraduates to do, not a sixth form student. GCSEs roughly being a GED/HSD doesn't surprise me at all.
That could be similar to AP courses that students can do in HS that counts as university credits
 
Old May 31st 2009 | 9:06 pm
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Originally Posted by dunroving
Agreed - though this may be interpreted slightly differently at different institutions.
Just out of interest, do you know if there is a vague correlation between US GPA and the degree scale mentioned here as used in the UK?
For example, any idea what a 3.25 grade point average would mean? Were it not for one incomplete class, they'd have given me honors with that score. Grumble, grumble.

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Old Jun 1st 2009 | 5:24 am
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Originally Posted by Xebedee
Just out of interest, do you know if there is a vague correlation between US GPA and the degree scale mentioned here as used in the UK?
For example, any idea what a 3.25 grade point average would mean? Were it not for one incomplete class, they'd have given me honors with that score. Grumble, grumble.

Ta.
Post number 6 about sums it up:

A = 4.0 = 1st
B = 3.0 = 2:1
C = 2.0 = 2:2
D = 1.0 = 3rd

- I'd say a 3.25 overall GPA is about a 2:1 ... but in reality it depends on what university and what major. Getting high grades in physics is a lot more difficult than in, say, media studies.
 
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Originally Posted by nc-gremlin
For honours degrees the breakdown is roughly:-
1st Class = A grade
2nd Class upper division (2:1) = B grade
2nd Class lower division (2:2) = C grade
3rd Class = D grade
Isn't there some correlation between Magna Cum Dingdong and Summa Cum Latte or whatever between 1st Class and 2:1 Honors or thereabouts!!!
 
Old Jun 1st 2009 | 7:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Voltore
Isn't there some correlation between Magna Cum Dingdong and Summa Cum Latte or whatever between 1st Class and 2:1 Honors or thereabouts!!!
Yes, and "Thank You Lordy" equates to a 3rd.

I forget exactly, but the Summa, Magna, and Cum Laude equate to something like GPA > 3.9, 3.75 and 3.5 ... approximately. It varies between institutions (some require a 4.0 for summa, for example), and some have extra requirements (e.g., an honours thesis) for these classifications.

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