Thydney

to Britain 3000 deaths in a couple of hours isn't considered a lot, the country has a long history of losing more than that in war. 60,000 on the First day of the Somme

Kaffy Mintcake

I meant on your part ... pest. English is my forte.

When it comes to math or directions, I don't claim to know a thing.

Kaffy Mintcake

Well said. I think what rubbed me the wrong way was the reference to x number of people died here vs. x number of people died here. Not really the point.

ugacrew

The P-51 was a fantastic aircraft. Who gives a s*** over the engine. The thing just worked. You have to give the plane credit, especially since it had better range, service level, and was a perfect match for the Luftwaffe.

BTW, the Rolls Royce engine is music to my ears. What a beautiful sounding engine, especially when you have several of them in the sky at once. Awesome!

Leslie

One thing that I've always found to be unfortunately overlooked is that prior to Peal Harbor, Roosevelt was antagonizing the shit out of the Japanese. By imposing impossible sanctions and terms on Japan (with regard to their withdrawal from occupation of China at the time) he was literally taunting them into some sort of US attack. This was another sophisticated ploy that may or may not have been influenced by Churchill.

Rushman

You'd give a toss if you had one with the Allison engines and all the rest of your sqadron had the Merlin.

Bloody thing wouldnt have even been built with the RAF anyway and come to think of it, it was the RAF that named it aswell, you lot were going to call it by some native American name I cant remember.

Leslie

Too right. It doesn't matter. And besides .... it's apples and oranges.

Rushman

Whatever anyone else tells you....it is primarily thanks to the Rolls Royce Merlin engine that us Brits dont speak German.

ugacrew

There is good argument that he WAS purposefully taunting the Japanese because his back was up to the wall. He couldn't strike and let that fly with the American public. You could say it was his strategy all along. It was pretty much a two'fer because of the alliance between Japan and Germany (who ironically are two among our best allies).

ugacrew

You know the name doesn't matter at the end of the day. It could have been called the P-51 Pink Bunny and it still would have been effective.

Rushman

No...this is a P-51 Pink Bunny....cant see many Germans getting killed by this.

ugacrew

It's all about sex to you. What a disappointment. Anyway, where were we.

Lord Lionheart

Found it. I had to go to the NPR archives from 3 years ago;

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=4205617

ugacrew

Thank you for your research effort!

snowbunny

What I said was that at the time the Brits were said to be relieved at the US entering the war. They'd lost tens of thousands of civilians and soldiers and the point I was trying to make (badly) was that while I'm sure that everyone was sorry about the loss of life, the Brits were glad the US had joined the effort.

I'm paraphrasing what I've read on the subject, including Churchill's autobiography. I see the numeric comparisons made all the time in war; to some people it matters, to others one death is no less than one hundred.