CV to Resume...the process!
#16
Re: CV to Resume...the process!
Originally Posted by Big Vern
Just some really simple things -
If you're emailing your resume out, don't forget to make it Letter paper, not A4..if you don't when they print it out it'll be all over the place.
Americanize the spelling - e.g. defense not defence
Most american companies wouldn't know what an O or A level is - I just put GCE (High School) Examinations inc. English Language, Maths etc and that seems to be explanation enough.
Don't underestimate putting your resume on Monster.com and Dice, you can get a lot of good leads from them even if you don't get a specific job. Interested recruiters call up, and then once you've got a contact keep pestering them...
Most of all, don't give up....
If you're emailing your resume out, don't forget to make it Letter paper, not A4..if you don't when they print it out it'll be all over the place.
Americanize the spelling - e.g. defense not defence
Most american companies wouldn't know what an O or A level is - I just put GCE (High School) Examinations inc. English Language, Maths etc and that seems to be explanation enough.
Don't underestimate putting your resume on Monster.com and Dice, you can get a lot of good leads from them even if you don't get a specific job. Interested recruiters call up, and then once you've got a contact keep pestering them...
Most of all, don't give up....
I REALLY appreciate all the help. Thanks so much.
I let you know how it goes!
Matt
PS - BritishInOhio, thanks for that. I will PM you.
#17
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Re: CV to Resume...the process!
Hey guys,
Good to hear that most of you are doing well in the US, a country that I think has no limits for the motivated professional
I have lived there 5 years and now I am back in Europe, but I do have a little bock to share from you... it's the ultimate bible to move around in the competitive US job market... it's as marketing aggresive as professional
here we go...
Don't send a Resume by Jeffrey J. Fox
the names says it all, it's worth reading it
I hope this helps
Good to hear that most of you are doing well in the US, a country that I think has no limits for the motivated professional
I have lived there 5 years and now I am back in Europe, but I do have a little bock to share from you... it's the ultimate bible to move around in the competitive US job market... it's as marketing aggresive as professional
here we go...
Don't send a Resume by Jeffrey J. Fox
the names says it all, it's worth reading it
I hope this helps
#18
Re: CV to Resume...the process!
My tuppence worth on CV's and Resumes over here is that it seems to me that as a stand alone document, you will send millions of them out and get harldy anything back. I have found that you have to send your resume out, wait a week or so, then get on the phone or go and see the people you sent it to (and thus, I found a decent job).
So, in my personal experience, I am of the opinion that US employers are generally ruder than UK ones (ie, they won't even get back to you to tell you no, just ignore you), different resumes (probably written with reference to UK skills) will get ignored or thrown out by the computerised auto checker or some HR tosser who has no clue about the job you are applying for. You have to do my research and get a hold of the right person within the company and arrange a chat with them.
Long and short of it, almost as Blue Paradise has put "Dont send a Resume" - I wouldnt go that far, but I'd send it as an introduction then get badgering. Joining professional organisations related to your field and going along to meetings and making some contacts is also another fantastic way to get an "in" - opposite to your resume, at these sort of things people are interested in speaking to you because you are slightly different.
So, in my personal experience, I am of the opinion that US employers are generally ruder than UK ones (ie, they won't even get back to you to tell you no, just ignore you), different resumes (probably written with reference to UK skills) will get ignored or thrown out by the computerised auto checker or some HR tosser who has no clue about the job you are applying for. You have to do my research and get a hold of the right person within the company and arrange a chat with them.
Long and short of it, almost as Blue Paradise has put "Dont send a Resume" - I wouldnt go that far, but I'd send it as an introduction then get badgering. Joining professional organisations related to your field and going along to meetings and making some contacts is also another fantastic way to get an "in" - opposite to your resume, at these sort of things people are interested in speaking to you because you are slightly different.
#19
Re: CV to Resume...the process!
Originally Posted by Dan725
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So, in my personal experience, I am of the opinion that US employers are generally ruder than UK ones (ie, they won't even get back to you to tell you no, just ignore you), different resumes (probably written with reference to UK skills) will get ignored or thrown out by the computerised auto checker or some HR tosser who has no clue about the job you are applying for. You have to do my research and get a hold of the right person within the company and arrange a chat with them.
<<snip>>
So, in my personal experience, I am of the opinion that US employers are generally ruder than UK ones (ie, they won't even get back to you to tell you no, just ignore you), different resumes (probably written with reference to UK skills) will get ignored or thrown out by the computerised auto checker or some HR tosser who has no clue about the job you are applying for. You have to do my research and get a hold of the right person within the company and arrange a chat with them.
<<snip>>
On the other hand, proactive applicants should do what they can to get a response from employers whom they apply to...
NC Penguin
#20
Re: CV to Resume...the process!
Do you have a degree? How old are you?
Originally Posted by ukmancoll
Hey guys,
I am going to be moving to the States in June to get married, and I believe I should be quite employable. I have a very good history in Sales & Marketing, with good experience and great references.
The current job market aside (where I am going to be living, etc) I am trying to figure out how to turn my British CV into an American resume. I have always thought I was good at writing a CV, but I am fast realising that a resume is completly different.
Does anyone have any ideas on this? Specific experiences?
I have done some searches on this site, and read up a bit about it. Just wondered if anyone else had anything to add.
Thanks a lot.
Matt
I am going to be moving to the States in June to get married, and I believe I should be quite employable. I have a very good history in Sales & Marketing, with good experience and great references.
The current job market aside (where I am going to be living, etc) I am trying to figure out how to turn my British CV into an American resume. I have always thought I was good at writing a CV, but I am fast realising that a resume is completly different.
Does anyone have any ideas on this? Specific experiences?
I have done some searches on this site, and read up a bit about it. Just wondered if anyone else had anything to add.
Thanks a lot.
Matt
#21
Re: CV to Resume...the process!
Do you have a degree? How old are you?
Originally Posted by ukmancoll
Hey guys,
I am going to be moving to the States in June to get married, and I believe I should be quite employable. I have a very good history in Sales & Marketing, with good experience and great references.
The current job market aside (where I am going to be living, etc) I am trying to figure out how to turn my British CV into an American resume. I have always thought I was good at writing a CV, but I am fast realising that a resume is completly different.
Does anyone have any ideas on this? Specific experiences?
I have done some searches on this site, and read up a bit about it. Just wondered if anyone else had anything to add.
Thanks a lot.
Matt
I am going to be moving to the States in June to get married, and I believe I should be quite employable. I have a very good history in Sales & Marketing, with good experience and great references.
The current job market aside (where I am going to be living, etc) I am trying to figure out how to turn my British CV into an American resume. I have always thought I was good at writing a CV, but I am fast realising that a resume is completly different.
Does anyone have any ideas on this? Specific experiences?
I have done some searches on this site, and read up a bit about it. Just wondered if anyone else had anything to add.
Thanks a lot.
Matt
#22
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Location: Lancashire UK
Posts: 4
Re: CV to Resume...the process!
............and if you don't have a degree, you can always convert your experience (ideal 12 year min), particular management experience into an equivalent US degree via companies that offer these services. For example
trustforte.com
trustforte.com
#23
Re: CV to Resume...the process!
The INS will accept documentary evidence of 12 years relevant experience.
I just called past employers - going back over 20 years!! Some hadn't ever heard of me but most were really good. In my letter to them requesting a reference I actually stated precisely what I did for them, and 9 times out of ten their reply came back with my own description as the main body of the reference...
I know for certain that the INS will accept a stack of references in lieu of a degree cos I've already been granted two H1B's, and I'm just in for a transfer as I write...
I just called past employers - going back over 20 years!! Some hadn't ever heard of me but most were really good. In my letter to them requesting a reference I actually stated precisely what I did for them, and 9 times out of ten their reply came back with my own description as the main body of the reference...
I know for certain that the INS will accept a stack of references in lieu of a degree cos I've already been granted two H1B's, and I'm just in for a transfer as I write...
#24
Re: CV to Resume...the process!
Originally Posted by TiminUK
............and if you don't have a degree, you can always convert your experience (ideal 12 year min), particular management experience into an equivalent US degree via companies that offer these services. For example
trustforte.com
trustforte.com
How does that work? I could probably get around 8 years worth of references. Would that be any good? Do they give you a bit of paper to say what you have is the equivelent of a degree?
I am not coming to the US on an H1B, I am coming via a K1 - nothing to do with employment. What I am interested in though is if it could help me find a position in the US.
#25
Re: CV to Resume...the process!
Originally Posted by ukmancoll
So this company will turn your experience into an equivelent degree?
How does that work? I could probably get around 8 years worth of references. Would that be any good? Do they give you a bit of paper to say what you have is the equivelent of a degree?
I am not coming to the US on an H1B, I am coming via a K1 - nothing to do with employment. What I am interested in though is if it could help me find a position in the US.
How does that work? I could probably get around 8 years worth of references. Would that be any good? Do they give you a bit of paper to say what you have is the equivelent of a degree?
I am not coming to the US on an H1B, I am coming via a K1 - nothing to do with employment. What I am interested in though is if it could help me find a position in the US.
Also, the majority of US employers will look for evidence of a bachelor's degree or equivalent. The exceptions are basic jobs like cleaning, waitresssing, store clerks, etc. I think you get the picture.
NC Penguin
#26
Re: CV to Resume...the process!
Originally Posted by ukmancoll
So this company will turn your experience into an equivelent degree?
How does that work? I could probably get around 8 years worth of references. Would that be any good? Do they give you a bit of paper to say what you have is the equivelent of a degree?
I am not coming to the US on an H1B, I am coming via a K1 - nothing to do with employment. What I am interested in though is if it could help me find a position in the US.
How does that work? I could probably get around 8 years worth of references. Would that be any good? Do they give you a bit of paper to say what you have is the equivelent of a degree?
I am not coming to the US on an H1B, I am coming via a K1 - nothing to do with employment. What I am interested in though is if it could help me find a position in the US.
#27
Re: CV to Resume...the process!
Originally Posted by BritishInOhio
Under 30 without an actual degree? That will make things difficult as basically most people of this age group will have a degree, you will find it difficult to convince any employer you have the skills if you don't have a degree being so young. Degree's are so easy over here that if you don't have one it's basically McD's or BK or learn a trade. Good luck.
I'll guess we'll see what happens.