Coronation
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Re: Coronation
As neither you nor Adnams are Labour supporters it is obvious you are going to say that, however the procedure was the same for the Tories. Putting up a lame-arse candidate just to make it look more "democratic" would no doubt have been decried as well.
The Conservative Party have an open goal for the next election -don't they?
The Conservative Party have an open goal for the next election -don't they?
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Re: Coronation
As neither you nor Adnams are Labour supporters it is obvious you are going to say that, however the procedure was the same for the Tories. Putting up a lame-arse candidate just to make it look more "democratic" would no doubt have been decried as well.
The Conservative Party have an open goal for the next election -don't they?
The Conservative Party have an open goal for the next election -don't they?
2) It wasn't the same for the Tories.. Major standing against Thatcher and winning don't think you could say that was a white-wash re candidates, or any other nomination (Though Major as a lame duck granted but not in the situation you were talking about.)
3) I didn't think it was right with Major being PM without an election either. Which I remember Labour being very vocal in that regard too.
Why would it have to be a 'lame-arse' candidate for Labour to put up, I would hope they have plenty of worthwhile candidates!
If it was only going to be 'lame-arse' candidates that they put up well it goes to my point I think the whole thing is a whitewash. And I would think its not just me that feels that way but many Labour supporters as well even if they like Brown?!
Also maybe FYI you might like to know that I like Tony Blair, did not like him when he first came to power but think he has proven himself as a good PM. So maybe as I was a Tory that last comment wasn't "obvious" for me to make
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Re: Coronation
1) For me it isn't, I hope I am never as a 'blind' supporter of a party that I don't see their weaknesses. I'd be very scared if I did!
2) It wasn't the same for the Tories.. Major standing against Thatcher and winning don't think you could say that was a white-wash re candidates, or any other nomination (Though Major as a lame duck granted but not in the situation you were talking about.)
3) I didn't think it was right with Major being PM without an election either. Which I remember Labour being very vocal in that regard too.
Why would it have to be a 'lame-arse' candidate for Labour to put up, I would hope they have plenty of worthwhile candidates!
If it was only going to be 'lame-arse' candidates that they put up well it goes to my point I think the whole thing is a whitewash. And I would think its not just me that feels that way but many Labour supporters as well even if they like Brown?!
Also maybe FYI you might like to know that I like Tony Blair, did not like him when he first came to power but think he has proven himself as a good PM. So maybe as I was a Tory that last comment wasn't "obvious" for me to make
2) It wasn't the same for the Tories.. Major standing against Thatcher and winning don't think you could say that was a white-wash re candidates, or any other nomination (Though Major as a lame duck granted but not in the situation you were talking about.)
3) I didn't think it was right with Major being PM without an election either. Which I remember Labour being very vocal in that regard too.
Why would it have to be a 'lame-arse' candidate for Labour to put up, I would hope they have plenty of worthwhile candidates!
If it was only going to be 'lame-arse' candidates that they put up well it goes to my point I think the whole thing is a whitewash. And I would think its not just me that feels that way but many Labour supporters as well even if they like Brown?!
Also maybe FYI you might like to know that I like Tony Blair, did not like him when he first came to power but think he has proven himself as a good PM. So maybe as I was a Tory that last comment wasn't "obvious" for me to make
At 41 and with very little diplomatic experience this is just what we need isnt it at these times, another nitwit! Especially after Becket who was utterly hopeless.
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Last edited by Adnams; Jun 28th 2007 at 11:17 am. Reason: spelling
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Re: Coronation
A presidential system doesn't mean that transfers of power such as Blair to Brown can't happen without some sort of election: Have a read about how Gerald Ford came to be president of the USA.