British Doctors / Physicians / Consultants etc in the US
Jun 11th 2007, 3:53 am
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Jun 11th 2007, 3:55 am
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No its not, just because you don't believe in Socialism doesn't mean you don't care.
Socialism doesn't work and I don't like Capitalism taken to far either, thats why a lot of us believe in the UK about trying to strike a balance between the two. And I am unapologetic about my views.
Jun 11th 2007, 3:56 am
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The OP didn't get a "bad hand" anyway, imo, because the idea that one "gets nothing back from taxes" if you don't have children is completely bizarre. I mean, it's not as though defence, policing or whatever are only provided for children!
Jun 11th 2007, 4:00 am
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No its not, just because you don't believe in Socialism doesn't mean you don't care.
Socialism doesn't work and I don't like Capitalism taken to far either, thats why a lot of us believe in the UK about trying to strike a balance between the two. And I am unapologetic about my views.
Jun 11th 2007, 4:00 am
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I did not say that the OP got a bad hand - on the contrary......... if she has the brains to become a doctor and the funds to pay the fees, she's streets ahead of most people.
Jun 11th 2007, 4:02 am
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Ozzidoc ..is a doctor in training ....
I taught her lots ...
I taught her lots ...
Jun 11th 2007, 4:04 am
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- I have never had any help from the gvt hardly so I feel I don't owe them anything. I know of someone who has their mortgage paid for by the gvt, can afford to run a car, has 3 kids, is on benefits, free fees etc.
- On the other hand - me, I pay for everything, I just want to know how GPs move to the US. I'm no socialist or communist.
Just looking for advise.
Jun 11th 2007, 4:12 am
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Jun 11th 2007, 4:12 am
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Obviously someone with more money pays a bit more in proportion to someone who is poor for Schools, hospitals etc but I don't see it as the govt taking more of our income to hand it to the poor, unemployed to 'equal' it out, obviously that happens when a socialist govt is voted in. But thankfully IMO we haven't had one since the 70s.
Even the Labour govt realised Socialism wasn't working and tried to find a right balance.
Which is why the balance is hard to strike re the unemployed etc as you want them to be able to survive but also want SOME of them to get an incentive to look for work.
Jun 11th 2007, 4:19 am
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I don't think it does, personally. Or thats not the main use of it or should be. But I suppose its how you look at it.
Obviously someone with more money pays a bit more in proportion to someone who is poor for Schools, hospitals etc but I don't see it as the govt taking more of our income to hand it to the poor, unemployed to 'equal' it out, obviously that happens when a socialist govt is voted in. But thankfully IMO we haven't had one since the 70s.
Even the Labour govt realised Socialism wasn't working and tried to find a right balance.
Which is why the balance is hard to strike re the unemployed etc as you want them to be able to survive but also want SOME of them to get an incentive to look for work.
Obviously someone with more money pays a bit more in proportion to someone who is poor for Schools, hospitals etc but I don't see it as the govt taking more of our income to hand it to the poor, unemployed to 'equal' it out, obviously that happens when a socialist govt is voted in. But thankfully IMO we haven't had one since the 70s.
Even the Labour govt realised Socialism wasn't working and tried to find a right balance.
Which is why the balance is hard to strike re the unemployed etc as you want them to be able to survive but also want SOME of them to get an incentive to look for work.
That's more like it........ for a minute I thought you were one of those "there is no such thing as society" aficionados...
Jun 11th 2007, 4:34 am
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Are there any UK trained / qualified Docs here. If so please let me know, I have a lot of questions I would like to ask and I would rather hear it from the horses mouth.
I know you have to do USMLEs, then residency. Is that still the same if you are already a GP in the UK? Or even a consultant? Isn't that like going from being a GP / Consultancy, to FY1 / FY2 in the UK? If so is it really worth it?
Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just weighing up options on what to do after my degree. If you have moved, when did you do your USMLE, was it worth it? What would you do differently? I've heard that Foreign qualifed docs don't always get the best posts and there is a bit of a stigma attached to them . . please advise.
Also - the visa issue, how does it work, what was the process (job 1st, then visa or vice versa?), how long did it take etc.
Salary? Is it at least the same as the UK?
If you like pm me or reply here. Thanks in advance.
I know you have to do USMLEs, then residency. Is that still the same if you are already a GP in the UK? Or even a consultant? Isn't that like going from being a GP / Consultancy, to FY1 / FY2 in the UK? If so is it really worth it?
Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just weighing up options on what to do after my degree. If you have moved, when did you do your USMLE, was it worth it? What would you do differently? I've heard that Foreign qualifed docs don't always get the best posts and there is a bit of a stigma attached to them . . please advise.
Also - the visa issue, how does it work, what was the process (job 1st, then visa or vice versa?), how long did it take etc.
Salary? Is it at least the same as the UK?
If you like pm me or reply here. Thanks in advance.
Jun 11th 2007, 4:58 am
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I know of a teacher from the Philippines who works in a 'sink' school in Newark, NJ.
Her husband was a Consultant (eye surgeon) in Manila. He tried to get a post in the US but was told that his qualifications aren't recognised in the States (or certainly in NJ).
He actually enrolled in a nursing school in Manila. Out of 28trainee nurses, 23 of them were qualified doctors who were training as a nurse so they could get a green card to live and work in the States... a much easier and quicker way for them to get US residency and a route to citizenship..... a nurse in the US earns more than a Consultant in the Philippines.
My Scottish friend was a qualified dentist and lived in the Boston area (her husband was transferred to the US with his job). She discovered that to be allowed to work in MA she would have to re-train.....at a cost of a minimum $100,000!
The family returned to live in Scotland after 5 years of living here and she's now happily working part-time in a dental surgery near Edinburgh.
Her husband was a Consultant (eye surgeon) in Manila. He tried to get a post in the US but was told that his qualifications aren't recognised in the States (or certainly in NJ).
He actually enrolled in a nursing school in Manila. Out of 28trainee nurses, 23 of them were qualified doctors who were training as a nurse so they could get a green card to live and work in the States... a much easier and quicker way for them to get US residency and a route to citizenship..... a nurse in the US earns more than a Consultant in the Philippines.
My Scottish friend was a qualified dentist and lived in the Boston area (her husband was transferred to the US with his job). She discovered that to be allowed to work in MA she would have to re-train.....at a cost of a minimum $100,000!
The family returned to live in Scotland after 5 years of living here and she's now happily working part-time in a dental surgery near Edinburgh.
Jun 11th 2007, 5:01 am
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It's so odd. I know some people go straight after their degree, I wonder if its easier that way, because you almost don't waste much time - I may be wrong.
