Brexit Britain vs Trump's America?
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This is true. However, I'd say that yob culture is more or less ubiquitous in the UK whereas gun culture can be avoided if you're careful about where in the States you live.
Of course, we can't ever completely ignore the possibility of gun violence, but then we also can't completely ignore the possibility of being stabbed at a bus stop in the UK.
Of course, we can't ever completely ignore the possibility of gun violence, but then we also can't completely ignore the possibility of being stabbed at a bus stop in the UK.
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Highly likely we will also return to the UK. One of the things on my mind is my UK Driving Licence. The paper copy says it's good until i'm 70, but the Photo version has already expired. Does this mean I have to take another UK driving licences?
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Driving licence renewal: Is yours valid? MoneySavingExpert
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No, you just renew your photocard with a more recent picture. I think you can even do it online and they use your passport photo. However, sometimes you have to do the paper form from the post office, eg if you're changing name (I got married). The paper version is now obsolete btw.
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As I wait out my VISA application to move from UK to to US, I feel similar dichotomy.
Waking up one day excited, another with dread.
If the Brexit referendum hadn't been leave and with Trump elected, I suspect I might think twice.
Conversely if Trump was not elected, it would be an easier choice to do it. Even more so after Brexit.
With both brexit and Trump, sort of doubts on both sides and it's really hard to predict.
Brexit may derail itself (no material change in the UK yet) or there could be impeachment.
Of course I wish it was early 2016 again, I've always wanted to do this and it's such a shame it is tainted by this.
View of US from Europe has never seemed at such an all time low right now, it is sad.
The news is not getting any better recently, but you've got also to consider personal goals and opportunity, which means I'm still hanging on to the idea to do it.
If we're even let in that is, with today's news who knows. If we're not, that'll be bye bye to the USA we knew and loved, fingers crossed this starts to return to normality soon.
Of course I'm fully supportive that both great nations continue to be great!
Waking up one day excited, another with dread.
If the Brexit referendum hadn't been leave and with Trump elected, I suspect I might think twice.
Conversely if Trump was not elected, it would be an easier choice to do it. Even more so after Brexit.
With both brexit and Trump, sort of doubts on both sides and it's really hard to predict.
Brexit may derail itself (no material change in the UK yet) or there could be impeachment.
Of course I wish it was early 2016 again, I've always wanted to do this and it's such a shame it is tainted by this.
View of US from Europe has never seemed at such an all time low right now, it is sad.
The news is not getting any better recently, but you've got also to consider personal goals and opportunity, which means I'm still hanging on to the idea to do it.
If we're even let in that is, with today's news who knows. If we're not, that'll be bye bye to the USA we knew and loved, fingers crossed this starts to return to normality soon.
Of course I'm fully supportive that both great nations continue to be great!
Last edited by LouisB; Jan 28th 2017 at 6:05 pm.
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Re: Brexit Britain vs Trump's America?
Trump has a lot of support in the US I think a lot of the mainstream media doesn't reflect that.
Fact - he is implementing policy that he said before being elected so why is anyone surprised that it is going ahead? This is policy that got him elected! Frankly given what is happening in Europe a lot of locals here support such a move vehemently!
Fact - he is implementing policy that he said before being elected so why is anyone surprised that it is going ahead? This is policy that got him elected! Frankly given what is happening in Europe a lot of locals here support such a move vehemently!
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Before anyone leaves the UK for the USA, they need to understand just how much money they will have to spend on insurance. Health Insurance is just plain ridiculous. Last year, one third of my income went on healthcare/insurance. Just having insurance does not mean you are done and dusted. Oh no. There are deductibles that have to be met before the insurance will pay the full agreed amount. There are co-pays, where they pay some of the bill, but not all.
Then remember that if you live in the north, it can be bitterly cold in winter and steaming hot in the summer. A tornado ripped though our daughter's neighbourhood just days after we arrived. On a typical snowy morning, 300-400 crashes on the roads surrounding Minneapolis is not unusual. Insurance premiums are therefore high even for the most modest of cars and homes.
I love the open spaces, bigger and cheaper homes etc. but don't come here unless you have a really good idea of how much it will really cost. Also remember that if your income is from the UK, exchange rate fluctuation can potentially destroy your budget.
Petrol is cheap, Natural Gas is cheap, Electricity is fairly expensive. Law and Order is far more strictly imposed than in the UK. Police are often fairly aggressive, since to be frank, they are scared of being shot. In our State, fixed speed cameras don't exist. They are considered unconstitutional. However mobile speed enforcement is quite rigorously practiced.
Some may also worry that East Enders is at least 10 years behind. Wendy Richards is still playing her part over here.
Then remember that if you live in the north, it can be bitterly cold in winter and steaming hot in the summer. A tornado ripped though our daughter's neighbourhood just days after we arrived. On a typical snowy morning, 300-400 crashes on the roads surrounding Minneapolis is not unusual. Insurance premiums are therefore high even for the most modest of cars and homes.
I love the open spaces, bigger and cheaper homes etc. but don't come here unless you have a really good idea of how much it will really cost. Also remember that if your income is from the UK, exchange rate fluctuation can potentially destroy your budget.
Petrol is cheap, Natural Gas is cheap, Electricity is fairly expensive. Law and Order is far more strictly imposed than in the UK. Police are often fairly aggressive, since to be frank, they are scared of being shot. In our State, fixed speed cameras don't exist. They are considered unconstitutional. However mobile speed enforcement is quite rigorously practiced.
Some may also worry that East Enders is at least 10 years behind. Wendy Richards is still playing her part over here.
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Before anyone leaves the UK for the USA, they need to understand just how much money they will have to spend on insurance. Health Insurance is just plain ridiculous. Last year, one third of my income went on healthcare/insurance. Just having insurance does not mean you are done and dusted. Oh no. There are deductibles that have to be met before the insurance will pay the full agreed amount. There are co-pays, where they pay some of the bill, but not all.
Then remember that if you live in the north, it can be bitterly cold in winter and steaming hot in the summer. A tornado ripped though our daughter's neighbourhood just days after we arrived. On a typical snowy morning, 300-400 crashes on the roads surrounding Minneapolis is not unusual. Insurance premiums are therefore high even for the most modest of cars and homes.
I love the open spaces, bigger and cheaper homes etc. but don't come here unless you have a really good idea of how much it will really cost. Also remember that if your income is from the UK, exchange rate fluctuation can potentially destroy your budget.
Petrol is cheap, Natural Gas is cheap, Electricity is fairly expensive. Law and Order is far more strictly imposed than in the UK. Police are often fairly aggressive, since to be frank, they are scared of being shot. In our State, fixed speed cameras don't exist. They are considered unconstitutional. However mobile speed enforcement is quite rigorously practiced.
Some may also worry that East Enders is at least 10 years behind. Wendy Richards is still playing her part over here.
Then remember that if you live in the north, it can be bitterly cold in winter and steaming hot in the summer. A tornado ripped though our daughter's neighbourhood just days after we arrived. On a typical snowy morning, 300-400 crashes on the roads surrounding Minneapolis is not unusual. Insurance premiums are therefore high even for the most modest of cars and homes.
I love the open spaces, bigger and cheaper homes etc. but don't come here unless you have a really good idea of how much it will really cost. Also remember that if your income is from the UK, exchange rate fluctuation can potentially destroy your budget.
Petrol is cheap, Natural Gas is cheap, Electricity is fairly expensive. Law and Order is far more strictly imposed than in the UK. Police are often fairly aggressive, since to be frank, they are scared of being shot. In our State, fixed speed cameras don't exist. They are considered unconstitutional. However mobile speed enforcement is quite rigorously practiced.
Some may also worry that East Enders is at least 10 years behind. Wendy Richards is still playing her part over here.
Healthcare here, you are subsidizing those that are uninsured etc who just use the ER and those on medicaid who pay virtually nothing so the costs get passed onto you am afraid!
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Before anyone leaves the UK for the USA, they need to understand just how much money they will have to spend on insurance. Health Insurance is just plain ridiculous. Last year, one third of my income went on healthcare/insurance. Just having insurance does not mean you are done and dusted. Oh no. There are deductibles that have to be met before the insurance will pay the full agreed amount. There are co-pays, where they pay some of the bill, but not all.
Then remember that if you live in the north, it can be bitterly cold in winter and steaming hot in the summer. A tornado ripped though our daughter's neighbourhood just days after we arrived. On a typical snowy morning, 300-400 crashes on the roads surrounding Minneapolis is not unusual. Insurance premiums are therefore high even for the most modest of cars and homes.
I love the open spaces, bigger and cheaper homes etc. but don't come here unless you have a really good idea of how much it will really cost. Also remember that if your income is from the UK, exchange rate fluctuation can potentially destroy your budget.
Petrol is cheap, Natural Gas is cheap, Electricity is fairly expensive. Law and Order is far more strictly imposed than in the UK. Police are often fairly aggressive, since to be frank, they are scared of being shot. In our State, fixed speed cameras don't exist. They are considered unconstitutional. However mobile speed enforcement is quite rigorously practiced.
Some may also worry that East Enders is at least 10 years behind. Wendy Richards is still playing her part over here.
Then remember that if you live in the north, it can be bitterly cold in winter and steaming hot in the summer. A tornado ripped though our daughter's neighbourhood just days after we arrived. On a typical snowy morning, 300-400 crashes on the roads surrounding Minneapolis is not unusual. Insurance premiums are therefore high even for the most modest of cars and homes.
I love the open spaces, bigger and cheaper homes etc. but don't come here unless you have a really good idea of how much it will really cost. Also remember that if your income is from the UK, exchange rate fluctuation can potentially destroy your budget.
Petrol is cheap, Natural Gas is cheap, Electricity is fairly expensive. Law and Order is far more strictly imposed than in the UK. Police are often fairly aggressive, since to be frank, they are scared of being shot. In our State, fixed speed cameras don't exist. They are considered unconstitutional. However mobile speed enforcement is quite rigorously practiced.
Some may also worry that East Enders is at least 10 years behind. Wendy Richards is still playing her part over here.
Appreciate it's a different setup but hopefully will be ok.
How much is insurance per person out of interest, typically?
Last edited by LouisB; Jan 28th 2017 at 8:58 pm.
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Trump has a lot of support in the US I think a lot of the mainstream media doesn't reflect that.
Fact - he is implementing policy that he said before being elected so why is anyone surprised that it is going ahead? This is policy that got him elected! Frankly given what is happening in Europe a lot of locals here support such a move vehemently!
Fact - he is implementing policy that he said before being elected so why is anyone surprised that it is going ahead? This is policy that got him elected! Frankly given what is happening in Europe a lot of locals here support such a move vehemently!
I guess the point being, USA is big and it depends exactly where you are or are going to.
Last edited by LouisB; Jan 28th 2017 at 8:32 pm.
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I agree completely. This is my 31st year in the US. Reagan was president when I arrived. In the 80's the US was seen as a tolerant generous nation. Not so much anymore. I suppose eventually everything changes.