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Old Jan 24th 2017, 8:11 am
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I was just wondering if there were other people in this group who were torn between these two problematic options.

I have always seen my dual US/UK citizenship as a 'best of both worlds' situation, but lately both countries seem to be going through some pretty turbulent times and I am having a hard time deciding which would be best for my family.

Currently in the UK, where the 'cost of living vs. salary' ratio feels pretty out of whack to me, even though there are lots of lovely things about living here. That sense of just barely scraping by is hard to shake, and when I look at jobs/houses in the US I am seeing a lot more attractive options. Also, I do keep thinking that although I personally can't stand Trump, at least he is only for four years, whereas the Brexit change is a permanent one.

I dunno, just thought I'd see if anyone else was wrestling with this question, and what conclusions (if any) you have reached.
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Originally Posted by transatlantic_chap
I was just wondering if there were other people in this group who were torn between these two problematic options.

I have always seen my dual US/UK citizenship as a 'best of both worlds' situation, but lately both countries seem to be going through some pretty turbulent times and I am having a hard time deciding which would be best for my family.

Currently in the UK, where the 'cost of living vs. salary' ratio feels pretty out of whack to me, even though there are lots of lovely things about living here. That sense of just barely scraping by is hard to shake, and when I look at jobs/houses in the US I am seeing a lot more attractive options. Also, I do keep thinking that although I personally can't stand Trump, at least he is only for four years, whereas the Brexit change is a permanent one.

I dunno, just thought I'd see if anyone else was wrestling with this question, and what conclusions (if any) you have reached.

I don't know if the US is the easier option. Loads of people scraping by too and even if Trump creates more manufacturing jobs, products won't be cheaper and people still end up poor. You can be happy in any country and just depends if you picked the right area for your skills.


Brexit was good for some of us in Ireland and bad for others but life will go on.
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Old Jan 24th 2017, 10:13 am
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My opinion is whatever the president is, whatever he or she stands for, whatever party they represent, focus on yours and your families life.

Make life better for you and those around you. Make a positive contribution for the years you can.

Too many people are getting caught up in doom and gloom and self pitty.
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Default Re: Brexit Britain vs Trump's America?

At the moment, it's entirely too early to say. Brexit hasn't happened and Trump hasn't probably figured out where to get milk at 2am in his new neighborhood.

I loath everything he stands for, but much like life under Bush and Obama...day to day life isn't going to change that much. You're still going to have to get up too early to go to a job that you don't particularly like...just like before. Sure some bigger things may change, but the fundamentals won't.
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I would be very surprised if Brexit every materialised. I simply do not see it happening given all the political wranglings.
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Originally Posted by catlover3
I would be very surprised if Brexit every materialised. I simply do not see it happening given all the political wranglings.
It will happen and it will be a disaster.......then it might get rolled back a bit.
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Originally Posted by transatlantic_chap
I was just wondering if there were other people in this group who were torn between these two problematic options.
I'm a US/UK dual citizen and depressed by the current situation in both the US and the UK. I believe that both countries have taken very wrong and worrying turns that will be bad economically and socially for most people. BREXIT worries me a bit more because it was a majority vote.....at least Trump won on the electoral college and not a majority vote so I still have some faith in the US electorate.

Right now I would not want to live in the UK because I think it's become an "ugly" place and living in New England at least I'm a bit insulated from the attitudes and policies of Trumpism.

I predict a short life for this thread.
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Originally Posted by catlover3
I would be very surprised if Brexit every materialised. I simply do not see it happening given all the political wranglings.
It will definitely happen. There is far too much political pressure for it not to.
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Originally Posted by tom169
It will definitely happen. There is far too much political pressure for it not to.

Or it will happen, but it won't look anything like the way Farage and co want it to.
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Originally Posted by catlover3
Or it will happen, but it won't look anything like the way Farage and co want it to.
Nah, Theresa May is pretty sold on that idea of "hard brexit".
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The supreme court have said parliament cannot vote on the Brexit situation and must push ahead with it!
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Originally Posted by jambey2510
The supreme court have said parliament cannot vote on the Brexit situation and must push ahead with it!
Either your head is on upside down, or you're living an alternative universe.

The BBC is reporting that the government cannot proceed with Brexit until parliament was voted to approve it.
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Originally Posted by jambey2510
The supreme court have said parliament cannot vote on the Brexit situation and must push ahead with it!
It's all about "alternative facts" these days!
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I think you'll find parts of the "should we stay or should we go" thread that has been running recently addresses your question somewhat.
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Originally Posted by nun
I'm a US/UK dual citizen and depressed by the current situation in both the US and the UK. I believe that both countries have taken very wrong and worrying turns that will be bad economically and socially for most people. BREXIT worries me a bit more because it was a majority vote.....at least Trump won on the electoral college and not a majority vote so I still have some faith in the US electorate.

Right now I would not want to live in the UK because I think it's become an "ugly" place and living in New England at least I'm a bit insulated from the attitudes and policies of Trumpism.

I predict a short life for this thread.
TBH, the thought of life under Trump is putting jet fuel under our plans to return to the UK! That's not what started those thoughts, but living in Texas - even though ours is an unusually blue city amidst so many red - we're at least weekly outraged to find out what our state's idiotic leaders have recently had to say or are thinking about doing. Ugh. I'm running back to Yorkshire ...
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