Birthright citizenship?
#1
Birthright citizenship?
On the way home from work this afternoon, I listened to a local radio talk show on which the topic was "Birthright citizenship. Apparently, the host (can't remember his name) believes that the US should stop recognizing birthright citizenship.
That is, a person born in the US would no longer be an automatic a US citizen.
How do the rest of you feel about this? I'm not sure where I stand at the moment. The host stated that most European countires didn't allow birthright citizenship, and he thought the US should follow suit.
He emphasized that the government needed to exercise greater control over the US population and emmigration policies.
How do you feel?
That is, a person born in the US would no longer be an automatic a US citizen.
How do the rest of you feel about this? I'm not sure where I stand at the moment. The host stated that most European countires didn't allow birthright citizenship, and he thought the US should follow suit.
He emphasized that the government needed to exercise greater control over the US population and emmigration policies.
How do you feel?
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Re: Birthright citizenship?
Originally Posted by Jabba1
On the way home from work this afternoon, I listened to a local radio talk show on which the topic was "Birthright citizenship. Apparently, the host (can't remember his name) believes that the US should stop recognizing birthright citizenship.
That is, a person born in the US would no longer be an automatic a US citizen.
How do the rest of you feel about this? I'm not sure where I stand at the moment. The host stated that most European countires didn't allow birthright citizenship, and he thought the US should follow suit.
He emphasized that the government needed to exercise greater control over the US population and emmigration policies.
How do you feel?
That is, a person born in the US would no longer be an automatic a US citizen.
How do the rest of you feel about this? I'm not sure where I stand at the moment. The host stated that most European countires didn't allow birthright citizenship, and he thought the US should follow suit.
He emphasized that the government needed to exercise greater control over the US population and emmigration policies.
How do you feel?
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Re: Birthright citizenship?
The debate may relate to this-
http://www.numbersusa.com/interests/...itizenship.htm
Go to the section on the Fourteenth Amendment Debate
http://www.numbersusa.com/interests/...itizenship.htm
Go to the section on the Fourteenth Amendment Debate
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Re: Birthright citizenship?
I'm pretty sure this is the case in Britain now. It just means if you are born in a certain country and leave soon after you aren't automatically entitled to it. Chances are you would get it.
A lot of people are in favour of this idea here in the US to stop Mexicans coming over on "vacation" having a baby and then trying to bring over the whole family.
A lot of people are in favour of this idea here in the US to stop Mexicans coming over on "vacation" having a baby and then trying to bring over the whole family.
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Re: Birthright citizenship?
Seems to me that one of the parents should be a citizen or at least a permanent resident, but I haven't really studied the pros and cons of it all. It's an interesting argument.
Last edited by Elsie The Maid; Jan 5th 2006 at 7:26 pm.
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Re: Birthright citizenship?
I think as mentioned by another poster, that the point of changing it would be so that people could not come into the country, with no connections, give birth and then have a us citizen child. As this is most common with people who come across the mexican border. Whether or not is should happen i don't know. Seems like it could be good, i do think that you should be at least living here legally to give the rights if us citizenship to your children.
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Re: Birthright citizenship?
Originally Posted by Jabba1
On the way home from work this afternoon, I listened to a local radio talk show on which the topic was "Birthright citizenship. Apparently, the host (can't remember his name) believes that the US should stop recognizing birthright citizenship.
That is, a person born in the US would no longer be an automatic a US citizen.
How do the rest of you feel about this? I'm not sure where I stand at the moment. The host stated that most European countires didn't allow birthright citizenship, and he thought the US should follow suit.
He emphasized that the government needed to exercise greater control over the US population and emmigration policies.
How do you feel?
That is, a person born in the US would no longer be an automatic a US citizen.
How do the rest of you feel about this? I'm not sure where I stand at the moment. The host stated that most European countires didn't allow birthright citizenship, and he thought the US should follow suit.
He emphasized that the government needed to exercise greater control over the US population and emmigration policies.
How do you feel?
#9
Re: Birthright citizenship?
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
I'm not sure I 'get' this; is he suggesting anyone born in the US should not be a citizen if the babies parents are not USCs?
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Re: Birthright citizenship?
This surprises me too. I thought they'd done away with this law years ago.
I agree that you should be legally resident here in order to get citizenship.
I extend that to H1B's etc..too though.
I agree that you should be legally resident here in order to get citizenship.
I extend that to H1B's etc..too though.
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Re: Birthright citizenship?
Originally Posted by neil
I was talking to my wife about this recently - I was very surprised to find out that any child born in the US is automatically a US citizen considering they make it pretty difficult for some people. It would seem to make sense that it should only be the case if the parents are legally in the country at least.
This would make sense. Something along British lines.
In the UK, the 'alien' parents have to be permanent residents in order for a child be British at birth, but I believe that children born in Britain can also be registered as British citizens if the parents obtain permanent leave ot remain at a later stage.
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Re: Birthright citizenship?
Originally Posted by izibear
This surprises me too. I thought they'd done away with this law years ago.
I agree that you should be legally resident here in order to get citizenship.
I extend that to H1B's etc..too though.
I agree that you should be legally resident here in order to get citizenship.
I extend that to H1B's etc..too though.
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Re: Birthright citizenship?
Originally Posted by Jabba1
Exactly! If neither parent is a citizen, then neither is the baby.
That's one law matter solved, lets get to the pub.
#14
Re: Birthright citizenship?
Originally Posted by Ben
You can't just 'do away' with this because it is part of the constitution. It would need an amendment to change the constitution, which takes a while.
Just because you popped out a baby on your VWP visit to Disney, baby should not be US Citizen automatically.
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Re: Birthright citizenship?
Originally Posted by Jabba1
On the way home from work this afternoon, I listened to a local radio talk show on which the topic was "Birthright citizenship. Apparently, the host (can't remember his name) believes that the US should stop recognizing birthright citizenship.
That is, a person born in the US would no longer be an automatic a US citizen.
How do you feel?
That is, a person born in the US would no longer be an automatic a US citizen.
How do you feel?
The 14th admendment of the constitution making anyone born here a citizen was to makes slaves citizens after they were freed, not for women to run over the border and drop a baby.