anyone else have problems adjusting??
#92
Re: anyone else have problems adjusting??
Got to say I've experienced the opposite - its hugs all round here with the lasses if you've met them more than about twice, and handshakes for the blokes - everytime you see them.....and when you part company at the end of the day. I find it gets a bit wearying to be honest.
Last edited by Mallory; Jan 4th 2008 at 1:18 am.
#93
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Re: anyone else have problems adjusting??
same here, it's hugs and hand shakes all the time! i found it strange when I came from the UK, but you get used to it. it can be a little OTT at times. i lived in Germany for several years though, and a handshake for a greeting is normal there. like someone said, it all comes down to local customs - nothing wrong with any of it. the British are definitely nowhere near as huggy/kissy as Americans - but I adapt to where I am. it's all okay with me.
Another example of ymmv apparently.
As long as I actually like the people, I don't mind either way really.
#94
Re: anyone else have problems adjusting??
I noticed in Calif peeps are more aloof. After all, it's a big country.
kiss, kiss!!
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#96
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That's because, if the efficient and trained grocery store cashier bagged your groceries, he/she wouldn't be able to stand around looking bored and depressed, conveying to everyone that they'd rather be somewhere else. I've never understood the logic of letting me bag my own groceries ... because I SUCK at it, and it takes me forever, slowing down the whole process. It's not like they do it for you here out of sheer goodwill, they do it because it lets them move people through faster.
#98
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But the money thing, I think it does vary from state to state. Some will call tips your wage so offer you less than minimum whilst some other states don't, and in those, you could earn great money
#99
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Yup, we're a miserable bunch in Mass anyway, or it might be we're afraid we'd stick to each other in the cold
#100
Re: anyone else have problems adjusting??
Thing is, back in blighty, you've more chance of not needing to work to study, or at least work as much as here so that it interferes with the studies. My course was kind of against people working because they didn't want people dropping dead after doing 60-80 hours of course work a week
But the money thing, I think it does vary from state to state. Some will call tips your wage so offer you less than minimum whilst some other states don't, and in those, you could earn great money
But the money thing, I think it does vary from state to state. Some will call tips your wage so offer you less than minimum whilst some other states don't, and in those, you could earn great money
However, I have 4 nieces and nephews in USA, and 4 nieces and nephews in UK, and all worked while going to uni. still needed cars, clothes, entertainment, etc.
#101
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Come to think of it, the right-turn-on-red (or the 'left turn on red' UK equiv) may fail because of the driving style over there; I'd say UK drivers are 'better' than US drivers, but then they drive so much more aggressively that it negates their better driving skills and ends up making the place more dangerous.
#102
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Nice idea! And how about having the British adopt the US custom of .... wait for it ... letting people cross the road! Even in a busy city like SF, pedestrians are given the right of way. I've never fully understood why this is, but it didn't take me long to get used to it and love it. I go back to UK now and nearly die every time I try to cross the road, since car drivers there won't give an inch.
Come to think of it, the right-turn-on-red (or the 'left turn on red' UK equiv) may fail because of the driving style over there; I'd say UK drivers are 'better' than US drivers, but then they drive so much more aggressively that it negates their better driving skills and ends up making the place more dangerous.
Come to think of it, the right-turn-on-red (or the 'left turn on red' UK equiv) may fail because of the driving style over there; I'd say UK drivers are 'better' than US drivers, but then they drive so much more aggressively that it negates their better driving skills and ends up making the place more dangerous.
I also find it interesting you think UK drivers won't give an inch - here, if you indicate to change lane, you are guaranteed the driver behind in that lane will speed up to cut you off - in the UK, if you indicate, people will generally let you in.
And crossing the road here? Are you insane???? Lord knows I'd cross a busy motorway in the UK and feel far safer than crossing a street in Tampa (or indeed any other US city) - completely disagree with you that its the other way round.
Last edited by Dan725; Jan 6th 2008 at 7:41 am.
#103
Re: anyone else have problems adjusting??
I wouldn't say your average UK driver drives more aggresively - faster maybe, but I find it far worse here. Insane weaving in busy traffic, road ragers, hit and run MUCH more prolific - on UK roads the traffic might be going faster but I find it much less stressful.
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And crossing the road here? Are you insane???? Lord knows I'd cross a busy motorway in the UK and feel far safer than crossing a street in Tampa (or indeed any other US city) - completely disagree with you that its the other way round.
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And crossing the road here? Are you insane???? Lord knows I'd cross a busy motorway in the UK and feel far safer than crossing a street in Tampa (or indeed any other US city) - completely disagree with you that its the other way round.
What I remember about driving on the M1 in UK is that there would be a major pile-up at least once a week, and because everyone was doing 90, and driving nose-to-tail, the accident would be devastating. I just don't see those major pile-ups here.
#104
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Maybe it's regional; here in CA, if I step off the sidewalk, cars stop - no question. Even if I do an illegal jaywalk in the middle of the street (not at a marked crosswalk), cars let me go. When my family visit from UK, they are always shocked by this and always comment on it. CA is famous for being 'laid back'; I find driving here relatively easy and relaxing.
What I remember about driving on the M1 in UK is that there would be a major pile-up at least once a week, and because everyone was doing 90, and driving nose-to-tail, the accident would be devastating. I just don't see those major pile-ups here.
What I remember about driving on the M1 in UK is that there would be a major pile-up at least once a week, and because everyone was doing 90, and driving nose-to-tail, the accident would be devastating. I just don't see those major pile-ups here.
At the bottom is this quote:
"The United Kingdom has a very good record for road safety compared with most other EU countries. In 2004 it had one of the lowest road death rates in the EU, at 5.6 per 100,000 population. The UK rate was also lower than the rates for other industrialised nations such as Japan (6.96 per 100,000 population), and substantially lower than that of Australia (8.15) and the United States (14.66)".
and here: http://cemt.org/IRTAD/IRTADPUBLIC/we2.html
I think that just about proves how shite the driving is in the US compared with the UK - approximately 3 times as shite....
Edit - but I will grant you, it varies a lot state by state, as shown here: http://www.driveandstayalive.com/inf...apita_2002.htm
Last edited by Dan725; Jan 6th 2008 at 12:29 pm.
#105
Re: anyone else have problems adjusting??
Have a read of this: http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1208
At the bottom is this quote:
"The United Kingdom has a very good record for road safety compared with most other EU countries. In 2004 it had one of the lowest road death rates in the EU, at 5.6 per 100,000 population. The UK rate was also lower than the rates for other industrialised nations such as Japan (6.96 per 100,000 population), and substantially lower than that of Australia (8.15) and the United States (14.66)".
I think that just about proves how shite the driving is in the US compared with the UK - approximately 3 times as shite....
Edit - but I will grant you, it varies a lot state by state, as shown here: http://www.driveandstayalive.com/inf...apita_2002.htm
At the bottom is this quote:
"The United Kingdom has a very good record for road safety compared with most other EU countries. In 2004 it had one of the lowest road death rates in the EU, at 5.6 per 100,000 population. The UK rate was also lower than the rates for other industrialised nations such as Japan (6.96 per 100,000 population), and substantially lower than that of Australia (8.15) and the United States (14.66)".
I think that just about proves how shite the driving is in the US compared with the UK - approximately 3 times as shite....
Edit - but I will grant you, it varies a lot state by state, as shown here: http://www.driveandstayalive.com/inf...apita_2002.htm