American gal....for now?
Aug 9th 2007, 4:23 pm
#181
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Re: American gal....for now?
20 miles south of London...hmm isn't that the vicinity of London? I know anywhere I have lived that if you live 20 miles from a major city you live in the metro area. Our friends over there live about 15-20 mi outside London and they consider it London. So....I didn't have an attitude when I said that we are not looking at or NEAR London I was just setting the record straight that was all..since you were quick to throw out prices.
I don't think I am the one with the "tude" for clarifying things
Do you go on boards and pick fights, make assumptions, and then call others hostile?? Yikes...
Colette
I don't think I am the one with the "tude" for clarifying things
Do you go on boards and pick fights, make assumptions, and then call others hostile?? Yikes... Colette
I live in West Sussex. West Sussex isn't London.
England is the size of Alabama. Living 20 miles away from a major city in England could easily put you into another county, as it does in this case.
You mentioned IT and I mentioned, considering my experience in working in IT and my husband scouting for higher paying jobs throughout the country, London is the best location for making money.
You made the claim your husband could earn £55k across the country in his trade. Go with God if he can, but that statement isn't necessarily true. And that was simply what I was pointing out.
Bye bye!
Aug 9th 2007, 4:30 pm
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Re: American gal....for now?
This is my final reply to you.
I live in West Sussex. West Sussex isn't London.
England is the size of Alabama. Living 20 miles away from a major city in England could easily put you into another county, as it does in this case.
You mentioned IT and I mentioned, considering my experience in working in IT and my husband scouting for higher paying jobs throughout the country, London is the best location for making money.
You made the claim your husband could earn £55k across the country in his trade. Go with God if he can, but that statement isn't necessarily true. And that was simply what I was pointing out.
Bye bye!
I live in West Sussex. West Sussex isn't London.
England is the size of Alabama. Living 20 miles away from a major city in England could easily put you into another county, as it does in this case.
You mentioned IT and I mentioned, considering my experience in working in IT and my husband scouting for higher paying jobs throughout the country, London is the best location for making money.
You made the claim your husband could earn £55k across the country in his trade. Go with God if he can, but that statement isn't necessarily true. And that was simply what I was pointing out.
Bye bye!
You come off as very bitter. Sorry if you are sad about living there (that is how it comes off) and if you are wanting to come back to the states then I wish you well. Slamming a fellow American who is just "thinking" about moving to England someday and not going into it blindly is not really nice. Good day..
Colette
Aug 9th 2007, 4:49 pm
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Re: American gal....for now?
Colette, first rule of forum life.... there's always a contrarian -- but the contrarian may have something worth listening to.
Second rule.... not everyone's nice.
Third rule.... some people are peaches in real life but come across as bitter apples online.
Possibly what some are trying to say is that one can't always have a made-to-order life. If you live in England, you may well find yourself having to live near London if that's where the work is. If you need to earn 55,000 per year to live, then you'll limit where you can live. Of course, if you work as well, you can add to your husband's salary. Twenty miles away from the City of London is vastly different than say twenty miles away from downtown LA.
I'd encourage you to live in England; if you could obtain British citizenship it opens the whole of Europe to you (in case your marriage ends for whatever reason, you would need to have citizenship in an EU country in your own right).
Second rule.... not everyone's nice.
Third rule.... some people are peaches in real life but come across as bitter apples online.
Possibly what some are trying to say is that one can't always have a made-to-order life. If you live in England, you may well find yourself having to live near London if that's where the work is. If you need to earn 55,000 per year to live, then you'll limit where you can live. Of course, if you work as well, you can add to your husband's salary. Twenty miles away from the City of London is vastly different than say twenty miles away from downtown LA.
I'd encourage you to live in England; if you could obtain British citizenship it opens the whole of Europe to you (in case your marriage ends for whatever reason, you would need to have citizenship in an EU country in your own right).
Aug 9th 2007, 4:58 pm
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Re: American gal....for now?
Colette, first rule of forum life.... there's always a contrarian -- but the contrarian may have something worth listening to.
Second rule.... not everyone's nice.
Third rule.... some people are peaches in real life but come across as bitter apples online.
Possibly what some are trying to say is that one can't always have a made-to-order life. If you live in England, you may well find yourself having to live near London if that's where the work is. If you need to earn 55,000 per year to live, then you'll limit where you can live. Of course, if you work as well, you can add to your husband's salary. Twenty miles away from the City of London is vastly different than say twenty miles away from downtown LA.
I'd encourage you to live in England; if you could obtain British citizenship it opens the whole of Europe to you (in case your marriage ends for whatever reason, you would need to have citizenship in an EU country in your own right).
Second rule.... not everyone's nice.
Third rule.... some people are peaches in real life but come across as bitter apples online.
Possibly what some are trying to say is that one can't always have a made-to-order life. If you live in England, you may well find yourself having to live near London if that's where the work is. If you need to earn 55,000 per year to live, then you'll limit where you can live. Of course, if you work as well, you can add to your husband's salary. Twenty miles away from the City of London is vastly different than say twenty miles away from downtown LA.
I'd encourage you to live in England; if you could obtain British citizenship it opens the whole of Europe to you (in case your marriage ends for whatever reason, you would need to have citizenship in an EU country in your own right).
Honestly we are not at the point that this is definate or even in the near future. Just trying to get a feel so to speak and once I go there since I have not been we would have a better idea.
Colette
Aug 9th 2007, 5:10 pm
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Re: American gal....for now?
Colette, first rule of forum life.... there's always a contrarian -- but the contrarian may have something worth listening to.
Second rule.... not everyone's nice.
Third rule.... some people are peaches in real life but come across as bitter apples online.
Possibly what some are trying to say is that one can't always have a made-to-order life. If you live in England, you may well find yourself having to live near London if that's where the work is. If you need to earn 55,000 per year to live, then you'll limit where you can live. Of course, if you work as well, you can add to your husband's salary. Twenty miles away from the City of London is vastly different than say twenty miles away from downtown LA.
I'd encourage you to live in England; if you could obtain British citizenship it opens the whole of Europe to you (in case your marriage ends for whatever reason, you would need to have citizenship in an EU country in your own right).
Second rule.... not everyone's nice.
Third rule.... some people are peaches in real life but come across as bitter apples online.
Possibly what some are trying to say is that one can't always have a made-to-order life. If you live in England, you may well find yourself having to live near London if that's where the work is. If you need to earn 55,000 per year to live, then you'll limit where you can live. Of course, if you work as well, you can add to your husband's salary. Twenty miles away from the City of London is vastly different than say twenty miles away from downtown LA.
I'd encourage you to live in England; if you could obtain British citizenship it opens the whole of Europe to you (in case your marriage ends for whatever reason, you would need to have citizenship in an EU country in your own right).
Aug 9th 2007, 10:09 pm
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Re: American gal....for now?
I get what you are saying..though how you are taking to me is honest yet not rude...the OP was frankly being bitter and rude when there was no reason to be.
Honestly we are not at the point that this is definate or even in the near future. Just trying to get a feel so to speak and once I go there since I have not been we would have a better idea.
Colette
Honestly we are not at the point that this is definate or even in the near future. Just trying to get a feel so to speak and once I go there since I have not been we would have a better idea.
Colette
Aug 9th 2007, 10:18 pm
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Re: American gal....for now?
Aug 9th 2007, 10:54 pm
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Re: American gal....for now?
Is this two septics arguing ....Oh !! how quaint ...
Aug 10th 2007, 12:13 am
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Re: American gal....for now?
Many on here can be friends to you and you'll benefit from their point of view, and they from yours ... but you'll need to make friends first of course.I'm not attacking you at all by the way - just trying to give some advice which you can take or leave. Best of luck to you - sincerely. I wish I had the opportunity to live abroad that you will have. Good for you for considering it!
Aug 10th 2007, 12:19 am
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Aug 10th 2007, 12:42 am
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Re: American gal....for now?
But depending on what your husband's specialty actually is, the good wage jobs aren't all over.
My husband is a Group IT Manager for 10 different companies, and he makes £55k and a company car. If we could get the same wage and move up norf where living is cheaper, we'd do it in a heartbeat.
£55k is about double the national average in terms of wages. A huge percentage of people here (us included) rent our property, as we're not financially able to get a mortgage.
Another aspect to think about is your toddler. Many of the little villages middle to up north do not contain a young population. We're I live, there's plenty of playgroups, nice parks and various activities to keep you and your child entertained.
Finally, I'm assuming you have a support system of older relatives when it come to taking care of your toddler in Arizona. My marriage is strong, but we have no outside family support over here. And being with a small child 24/7 without any opportunities to drop her off to grandma's for the weekend? It's difficult and can be isolating.
Your responses to me have appeared to be a little hostile. I read this forum as I'd like to go back to the US one day, and I like to read about some of the trials and tribulations my husband may experience when living in the US.
My responses to you aren't meant to discourage you, but to give you information regarding the reality of living in the UK. It doesn't do any good to live next to Europe if you can't afford to travel there because you're living in York bringing in £23K per year and you're dishing out nearly $1000US a month for child care so you can work at Tesco.
My husband is a Group IT Manager for 10 different companies, and he makes £55k and a company car. If we could get the same wage and move up norf where living is cheaper, we'd do it in a heartbeat.
£55k is about double the national average in terms of wages. A huge percentage of people here (us included) rent our property, as we're not financially able to get a mortgage.
Another aspect to think about is your toddler. Many of the little villages middle to up north do not contain a young population. We're I live, there's plenty of playgroups, nice parks and various activities to keep you and your child entertained.
Finally, I'm assuming you have a support system of older relatives when it come to taking care of your toddler in Arizona. My marriage is strong, but we have no outside family support over here. And being with a small child 24/7 without any opportunities to drop her off to grandma's for the weekend? It's difficult and can be isolating.
Your responses to me have appeared to be a little hostile. I read this forum as I'd like to go back to the US one day, and I like to read about some of the trials and tribulations my husband may experience when living in the US.
My responses to you aren't meant to discourage you, but to give you information regarding the reality of living in the UK. It doesn't do any good to live next to Europe if you can't afford to travel there because you're living in York bringing in £23K per year and you're dishing out nearly $1000US a month for child care so you can work at Tesco.