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Ethelred_the_Unready May 1st 2012 2:18 pm

It all boils down to this...
 
You've just got to accept that America is home now. I have to face it, rather than fight it. I've been gone from the UK for the best part of a decade and would probably feel even more out of place if I returned tomorrow.

The healthcare issue sucks here, Republicans are wankers and I have failed to get into American sports thus far, but this enormous country is my home now.

Note to self: deal with it and get into the Boston Celtics.

lisa67 May 1st 2012 2:22 pm

Re: It all boils down to this...
 

Originally Posted by Ethelred_the_Unready (Post 10036458)
You've just got to accept that America is home now. I have to face it, rather than fight it. I've been gone from the UK for the best part of a decade and would probably feel even more out of place if I returned tomorrow.

The healthcare issue sucks here, Republicans are wankers and I have failed to get into American sports thus far, but this enormous country is my home now.

Note to self: deal with it and get into the Boston Celtics.

Welcome to the dark side ;)

Sally Redux May 1st 2012 2:29 pm

Re: It all boils down to this...
 
I don't think the UK has changed that much, I think I would still fit in.

lisa67 May 1st 2012 2:33 pm

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Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 10036471)
I don't think the UK has changed that much, I think I would still fit in.

I find that each time I go back to the UK I fell less and less like I fit in. I even find it hard to watch TV, or listen to the radio, it takes me a while to "tune in" to the accent, even though I still have my English accent...scary:eek:

Ethelred_the_Unready May 1st 2012 2:33 pm

Re: It all boils down to this...
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 10036471)
I don't think the UK has changed that much, I think I would still fit in.

I probably would, but can't go back. I have to try to find a part of this country that I can be comfortable in. With the pending divorce, the USA is my oyster, so to speak of. New York, Pittsburgh, northern California, Oregon and Washington (state) are all high on the list.

Sally Redux May 1st 2012 2:38 pm

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Originally Posted by Ethelred_the_Unready (Post 10036474)
I probably would, but can't go back. I have to try to find a part of this country that I can be comfortable in. With the pending divorce, the USA is my oyster, so to speak of. New York, Pittsburgh, northern California, Oregon and Washington (state) are all high on the list.

Have I missed something, why can't you go back?

Ethelred_the_Unready May 1st 2012 2:38 pm

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Originally Posted by lisa67 (Post 10036473)
I find that each time I go back to the UK I fell less and less like I fit in. I even find it hard to watch TV, or listen to the radio, it takes me a while to "tune in" to the accent, even though I still have my English accent...scary:eek:

The UK will always be where I came from, but having spent the last few days / weeks soul searching, I know that I cannot go back there, not even to visit. I will still take solace in looking back at my time there while wearing heavily rose tinted specs, immersed in nostalgia, looking at it on Google Street View, but that's as far as it'll go. Logically, going back would just be "weird", especially as I have so many bad memories there and family that I'd rather were 4,000 miles away rather than 40 miles away.

Ethelred_the_Unready May 1st 2012 2:42 pm

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Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 10036478)
Have I missed something, why can't you go back?

Mostly personal reasons, i.e. bad memories, shitty family. Looking at it objectively, I'm way better off over here.

Sally Redux May 1st 2012 2:43 pm

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Originally Posted by Ethelred_the_Unready (Post 10036482)
Mostly personal reasons, i.e. bad memories, shitty family. Looking at it objectively, I'm way better off over here.

Don't tell them you've moved back :lol:

Lion in Winter May 1st 2012 2:45 pm

Re: It all boils down to this...
 

Originally Posted by Ethelred_the_Unready (Post 10036482)
Mostly personal reasons, i.e. bad memories, shitty family. Looking at it objectively, I'm way better off over here.

You seem to miss it though, emotionally and culturally. Don't underestimate that. And the door's never closed , btw. No, you can't go back to the way you saw things before you left, but I've found that doesn't matter. You haven't stood still and nor has the country - you both have changed, and it all works.

Having said that, if you miss the UK I think you will fit in culturally better at the edges of this country than the middle. You might like the Pacific Northwest.

lisa67 May 1st 2012 2:47 pm

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Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 10036483)
Don't tell them you've moved back :lol:

Agreed, EtU you could always just pretend you were still living in the US, we won't tell :D

Lion in Winter May 1st 2012 2:49 pm

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Originally Posted by lisa67 (Post 10036486)
Agreed, EtU you could always just pretend you were still living in the US, we won't tell :D

Exactly.

And really, it isn't "going back". It's "going on" - but just in your own country. What you do with it is up to you - but it certainly isn't returning to the past, because the past is another country, as they say.

Ethelred_the_Unready May 1st 2012 2:51 pm

Re: It all boils down to this...
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 10036483)
Don't tell them you've moved back :lol:

LOL, I actually contemplated that, but while that may work as far as the wanky family is concerned, it won't keep the ghosts at bay. The UK isn't a big country; I have memories in quite a few corners of it. I've also lived here for so long that I have most likely underestimated how subconsciously Americanized I have most likely become over the last 9 years. I would be in no less of a difficult predicament back there - no one to rely on an I'd be in what would most likely feel like a foreign country at this stage = bad move.

My gut is telling me to tough it out here, even if my heart tells me otherwise and history has proven that my gut instincts are seldom wrong. At this point, I could literally go back to the UK pernanently this week, but that would be a bad idea. I have as little there as I do here.

Sally Redux May 1st 2012 2:51 pm

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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 10036487)
Exactly.

And really, it isn't "going back". It's "going on" - but just in your own country. What you do with it is up to you - but it certainly isn't returning to the past, because the past is another country, as they say.

Good way of putting it :thumbup:

Sally Redux May 1st 2012 2:54 pm

Re: It all boils down to this...
 

Originally Posted by Ethelred_the_Unready (Post 10036489)
LOL, I actually contemplated that, but while that may work as far as the wanky family is concerned, it won't keep the ghosts at bay. The UK isn't a big country; I have memories in quite a few corners of it. I've also lived here for so long that I have most likely underestimated how subconsciously Americanized I have most likely become over the last 9 years. I would be in no less of a difficult predicament back there - no one to rely on an I'd be in what would most likely feel like a foreign country at this stage = bad move.

My gut is telling me to tough it out here, even if my heart tells me otherwise and history has proven that my gut instincts are seldom wrong. At this point, I could literally go back to the UK pernanently this week, but that would be a bad idea. I have as little there as I do here.

Well it's your call, but from your posts you seem to have a struggle with the US.

It seems unlikely that there are 'ghosts' in every part of the UK :unsure:


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