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Tinyburst Jul 28th 2005 8:36 am

240 volt socket
 
Has any one fitted a UK 3 pin 240 volt electrical socket in their US home? I am thinking of tapping into the cookers or dryers power supply and fitting a UK type socket so that my wife can use her sewing machine. Anyone got any experience or suggestions?

Cheers

Tiny

anotherlimey Jul 28th 2005 8:41 am

Re: 240 volt socket
 

Originally Posted by Tinyburst
Has any one fitted a UK 3 pin 240 volt electrical socket in their US home? I am thinking of tapping into the cookers or dryers power supply and fitting a UK type socket so that my wife can use her sewing machine. Anyone got any experience or suggestions?

Cheers

Tiny

I hope you have good home insurance! :p

gruffbrown Jul 28th 2005 8:42 am

Re: 240 volt socket
 

Originally Posted by Tinyburst
Has any one fitted a UK 3 pin 240 volt electrical socket in their US home? I am thinking of tapping into the cookers or dryers power supply and fitting a UK type socket so that my wife can use her sewing machine. Anyone got any experience or suggestions?

Cheers

Tiny

Sometimes I laugh and sometimes I weep.........not keen on the wife then?

Tinyburst Jul 28th 2005 8:44 am

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Originally Posted by gruffbrown
Sometimes I laugh and sometimes I weep.........not keen on the wife then?

She has her moments, but that is not the question. :)

fatbrit Jul 28th 2005 8:44 am

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anotherlimey Jul 28th 2005 8:45 am

Re: 240 volt socket
 
I was being half serious. I'm not sure your home insurance company would like it if you were to wire in a UK socket.

snowbunny Jul 28th 2005 8:45 am

Re: 240 volt socket
 

Originally Posted by gruffbrown
Sometimes I laugh and sometimes I weep.........not keen on the wife then?

Good Lord.

I would use an electrician. And I've got a degree in electrical engineering. The sewing machine does have a motor of sorts.... is that why you can't just use a standard voltage converter/transformer?

snowbunny Jul 28th 2005 8:46 am

Re: 240 volt socket
 

Originally Posted by anotherlimey
I was being half serious. I'm not sure your home insurance company would like it if you were to wire in a UK socket.

Dodgy work on one's own? no, they wouldn't like. By a bonded certified pro? Probably be okay, after all we have them for washer/dryer/fridge.

gruffbrown Jul 28th 2005 8:48 am

Re: 240 volt socket
 

Originally Posted by Tinyburst
She has her moments, but that is not the question. :)

Why not use a travel adaptor?

krizzy Jul 28th 2005 8:50 am

Re: 240 volt socket
 

Originally Posted by gruffbrown
Why not use a travel adaptor?

Why not be safe and buy a new machine....... :confused:

gruffbrown Jul 28th 2005 8:50 am

Re: 240 volt socket
 

Originally Posted by Tinyburst
Has any one fitted a UK 3 pin 240 volt electrical socket in their US home? I am thinking of tapping into the cookers or dryers power supply and fitting a UK type socket so that my wife can use her sewing machine. Anyone got any experience or suggestions?

Cheers

Tiny

The cookers probably on a 30 amp circuit, she'd certainly sew faster before she burst into flames

Tinyburst Jul 28th 2005 8:51 am

Re: 240 volt socket
 

Originally Posted by snowbunny
Good Lord.

I would use an electrician. And I've got a degree in electrical engineering. The sewing machine does have a motor of sorts.... is that why you can't just use a standard voltage converter/transformer?

No, I think that if it were to be possible I would bring some of my other stuff over with me.

I really can not see what the problem is, I am guessing that the 240 volt supply is fused. I would just be using a different type of connection.

AdobePinon Jul 28th 2005 8:52 am

Re: 240 volt socket
 

Originally Posted by snowbunny
Good Lord.

I would use an electrician. And I've got a degree in electrical engineering. The sewing machine does have a motor of sorts.... is that why you can't just use a standard voltage converter/transformer?

No reasonable electrician is going to stick a UK socket on that circuit. Just a minor code violation, I'm sure.

anotherlimey Jul 28th 2005 8:54 am

Re: 240 volt socket
 

Originally Posted by Tinyburst
No, I think that if it were to be possible I would bring some of my other stuff over with me.

I really can not see what the problem is, I am guessing that the 240 volt supply is fused. I would just be using a different type of connection.

240V supply? Did I miss something?

gruffbrown Jul 28th 2005 8:54 am

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Originally Posted by anotherlimey
240V supply? Did I miss something?

No, I don't think so.... :o

http://www.e-edit.co.uk/images/cry.gif

krizzy Jul 28th 2005 8:57 am

Re: 240 volt socket
 

Originally Posted by gruffbrown
The cookers probably on a 30 amp circuit, she'd certainly sew faster before she burst into flames

You are way too funny....... :D :D

gruffbrown Jul 28th 2005 8:58 am

Re: 240 volt socket
 

Originally Posted by Tinyburst
No, I think that if it were to be possible I would bring some of my other stuff over with me.

I really can not see what the problem is, I am guessing that the 240 volt supply is fused. I would just be using a different type of connection.

Errrr..... what else were you thinking of bringing over?

AdobePinon Jul 28th 2005 9:05 am

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And don't forget that the 230V supply you're talking about is 60 Hz.

snowbunny Jul 28th 2005 9:17 am

Re: 240 volt socket
 

Originally Posted by AdobePinon
And don't forget that the 230V supply you're talking about is 60 Hz.

mmmm yeah. The motor might have a bit of a problem with that.

cabritpop Jul 28th 2005 9:24 am

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If your cooker is gas you won't be able to run a sewing machine from the energy source, bear that in mind. Unless its one of those new fangled Japanese ones.

TexasPenguin Jul 28th 2005 9:36 am

Re: 240 volt socket
 

Originally Posted by Tinyburst
Has any one fitted a UK 3 pin 240 volt electrical socket in their US home? I am thinking of tapping into the cookers or dryers power supply and fitting a UK type socket so that my wife can use her sewing machine. Anyone got any experience or suggestions?

Cheers

Tiny

Sorry to go against the general replies here...
But, if you are let's say "electrically minded" this will work fine.
I have 240V sockets in both my garage (drills, routers, etc.) and my kitchen (coffe makers, electric knives, mixers etc).
I'm sure your house insurance would take a dim view but, electrically - "technically" there's nowt wrong with doing this - the 60Hz/50Hz things makes not a jot of difference to 90% of things. The only thing to watch out for is that the 220V in the US has BOTH WIRES HOT. IN the UK, one side, neutral, is at ground potential.
So, don't go poking around inside a washing machine or the like since the design will have assumed that the neutral is at ground.

gruffbrown Jul 28th 2005 9:58 am

Re: 240 volt socket
 

Originally Posted by AndySmithers
Sorry to go against the general replies here...
But, if you are let's say "electrically minded" this will work fine.
I have 240V sockets in both my garage (drills, routers, etc.) and my kitchen (coffe makers, electric knives, mixers etc).
I'm sure your house insurance would take a dim view but, electrically - "technically" there's nowt wrong with doing this - the 60Hz/50Hz things makes not a jot of difference to 90% of things. The only thing to watch out for is that the 220V in the US has BOTH WIRES HOT. IN the UK, one side, neutral, is at ground potential.
So, don't go poking around inside a washing machine or the like since the design will have assumed that the neutral is at ground.

http://www.theargonath.cc/stuff/fotrobservation60.jpg

Franklin Jul 28th 2005 10:18 am

Re: 240 volt socket
 

Originally Posted by Tinyburst
No, I think that if it were to be possible I would bring some of my other stuff over with me.

I really can not see what the problem is, I am guessing that the 240 volt supply is fused. I would just be using a different type of connection.

Troll?

Franklin Jul 28th 2005 10:24 am

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And if someone visiting an American house with UK fitted plugs is injured upon plugging in an electrical apparatus into a 30 amp circuit? If the house is sold and the sockets not put back to their original form? What then? Reckless homicide conviction? Involuntary manslaughter? If someone has changed sockets in their own home, they are certainly in violation of codes and common sense, and should someone be injured downstream, they will likely face the risk of a criminal conviction and may spend a lot of time in a lock-up. Some benefits, full board and free medical (no guarantee of quality though).

snowbunny Jul 28th 2005 10:29 am

Re: 240 volt socket
 

Originally Posted by Franklin
If someone has changed sockets in their own home, they are certainly in violation of codes and common sense, and should someone be injured downstream, they will likely face the risk of a criminal conviction and may spend a lot of time in a lock-up. Some benefits, full board and free medical (no guarantee of quality though).

Duuude, it's a fine.... the jails are already overfull with drug addicts and white collar swindlers.

Franklin Jul 28th 2005 10:33 am

Re: 240 volt socket
 

Originally Posted by snowbunny
Duuude, it's a fine.... the jails are already overfull with drug addicts and white collar swindlers.


... and if someone dies, it will not be a small fine, it will be JAIL TIME. :D Come here kitty kitty ... JAIL TIME ... where is this line from? Know it is from some movie ... "come and get it" ... ahhh, in Highlander and Alien - mutated combo line.

snowbunny Jul 28th 2005 10:36 am

Re: 240 volt socket
 

Originally Posted by Franklin
... and if someone dies, it will not be a small fine, it will be JAIL TIME. :D Come here kitty kitty ... JAIL TIME ... where is this line from? Know it is from some movie ... "come and get it" ... ahhh, in Highlander and Alien - mutated combo line.

Oooo look at the funny looking plug in the wall.... I think I'll try to force an American appliance in instead.... whilst standing in a foot of water that's leaked from the piping, bastard worked on the plumbing as well.... hmm not fitting.... I'll just jab a fork in instead and see if it's hot....

AmerLisa Jul 28th 2005 10:38 am

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Gruff! A picture of you and your brother?

gruffbrown Jul 28th 2005 10:39 am

Re: 240 volt socket
 

Originally Posted by AndySmithers
Sorry to go against the general replies here...
But, if you are let's say "electrically minded" this will work fine.
I have 240V sockets in both my garage (drills, routers, etc.) and my kitchen (coffe makers, electric knives, mixers etc).
I'm sure your house insurance would take a dim view but, electrically - "technically" there's nowt wrong with doing this - the 60Hz/50Hz things makes not a jot of difference to 90% of things. The only thing to watch out for is that the 220V in the US has BOTH WIRES HOT. IN the UK, one side, neutral, is at ground potential.
So, don't go poking around inside a washing machine or the like since the design will have assumed that the neutral is at ground.

The washing machine with the leaky pipe? No I promise I won't go poking around in there, not without my Faraday suit and rubber boots :rolleyes:

Franklin Jul 28th 2005 10:50 am

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The OP is funny though ...

Big D Jul 28th 2005 10:55 am

Re: 240 volt socket
 
just get a voltage converter -we did and it worked fine!

Not that i sew personally.....not that there would be anything wrong if i did...

and whats with the washer dryer thing, some kind of chauvanistic plan to keep your wife in the kitchen with the white goods?

Franklin Jul 28th 2005 11:01 am

Re: 240 volt socket
 

Originally Posted by Big D
just get a voltage converter -we did and it worked fine!

Not that i sew personally.....not that there would be anything wrong if i did...

:D I believe you ... that you don't unite or fasten by stitches ;)

Yosser Jul 28th 2005 11:08 am

Re: 240 volt socket
 

Originally Posted by Tinyburst
Has any one fitted a UK 3 pin 240 volt electrical socket in their US home? I am thinking of tapping into the cookers or dryers power supply and fitting a UK type socket so that my wife can use her sewing machine. Anyone got any experience or suggestions?

Cheers

Tiny

:D

laughed my tits off at this post!

The U.S runs on different volts and hertz here, save yourself the bother and buy the ball and chain a new sewing machine from best buy.

BritGuyTN Jul 28th 2005 12:04 pm

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Originally Posted by Yosser
:D

laughed my tits off at this post!

The U.S runs on different volts and hertz here, save yourself the bother and buy the ball and chain a new sewing machine from best buy.


although to be fair some machines cost an arm and a leg - my mother in law's cost $3000.....

TexasPenguin Jul 28th 2005 1:26 pm

Re: 240 volt socket
 

Originally Posted by Yosser
:D

laughed my tits off at this post!

The U.S runs on different volts and hertz here, save yourself the bother and buy the ball and chain a new sewing machine from best buy.

Yes, of course, you are all right, you are all experts after all...

1) The US DOES indeed run off different volts than the UK - in the US they are yellow, in Europe they are purple - won't work at all.
2) Connecting ANYTHING other than a bone-fide made-in-china good ol' US of A plug to a 110V outlet (make sure it's a cheap as shit, non-switched, exposed wire when you take the cover off by 1mm - mind) will, indeed, cause a nuclear explosion.
3) Connecting a cell phone charger up to a 30 Amp circuit will, of course, draw the full 30A thus causing the aforesaid nuclear explosion.
4) All sewing machines in the USA (along with, well, basically anything electrical) cost, well, so close to bugger all you may as well simply throw the lot away and buy new stuff (after all we all earn SO much more here, why not?).
5) Anyone who connects anything to their home electrical circuit is, by definition, a code-avoiding moron who deserves the full weight of the FBI, CIA and insurance companies to be brought to bear.

Now I must go rescue my son from using the 240V black and decker in the garage. The bomb goes critical any minute.

Sensible question...one or two sensible answers...many misleading, sensational or simply wrong answers - about par for the course...

gruffbrown Jul 28th 2005 1:30 pm

Re: 240 volt socket
 

Originally Posted by AndySmithers
Yes, of course, you are all right, you are all experts after all...

1) The US DOES indeed run off different volts than the UK - in the US they are yellow, in Europe they are purple - won't work at all.
2) Connecting ANYTHING other than a bone-fide made-in-china good ol' US of A plug to a 110V outlet (make sure it's a cheap as shit, non-switched, exposed wire when you take the cover off by 1mm - mind) will, indeed, cause a nuclear explosion.
3) Connecting a cell phone charger up to a 30 Amp circuit will, of course, draw the full 30A thus causing the aforesaid nuclear explosion.
4) All sewing machines in the USA (along with, well, basically anything electrical) cost, well, so close to bugger all you may as well simply throw the lot away and buy new stuff (after all we all earn SO much more here, why not?).
5) Anyone who connects anything to their home electrical circuit is, by definition, a code-avoiding moron who deserves the full weight of the FBI, CIA and insurance companies to be brought to bear.

Now I must go rescue my son from using the 240V black and decker in the garage. The bomb goes critical any minute.

Sensible question...one or two sensible answers...many misleading, sensational or simply wrong answers - about par for the course...

OK I give up, which one was the sensible one?

anotherlimey Jul 28th 2005 1:33 pm

Re: 240 volt socket
 

Originally Posted by AndySmithers
Yes, of course, you are all right, you are all experts after all...

1) The US DOES indeed run off different volts than the UK - in the US they are yellow, in Europe they are purple - won't work at all.
2) Connecting ANYTHING other than a bone-fide made-in-china good ol' US of A plug to a 110V outlet (make sure it's a cheap as shit, non-switched, exposed wire when you take the cover off by 1mm - mind) will, indeed, cause a nuclear explosion.
3) Connecting a cell phone charger up to a 30 Amp circuit will, of course, draw the full 30A thus causing the aforesaid nuclear explosion.
4) All sewing machines in the USA (along with, well, basically anything electrical) cost, well, so close to bugger all you may as well simply throw the lot away and buy new stuff (after all we all earn SO much more here, why not?).
5) Anyone who connects anything to their home electrical circuit is, by definition, a code-avoiding moron who deserves the full weight of the FBI, CIA and insurance companies to be brought to bear.

Now I must go rescue my son from using the 240V black and decker in the garage. The bomb goes critical any minute.

Sensible question...one or two sensible answers...many misleading, sensational or simply wrong answers - about par for the course...

Someone's got their knickers in a twist!

krizzy Jul 28th 2005 1:37 pm

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Originally Posted by anotherlimey
Someone's got their knickers in a twist!

For a change it was not me...... :D :D
Not that I wear knickers anyway......

gruffbrown Jul 28th 2005 1:46 pm

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Originally Posted by anotherlimey
Someone's got their knickers in a twist!

Probably from spin drying them with a 240V plug

AdobePinon Jul 28th 2005 5:29 pm

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I'm gonna start driving on the left again. Should work - same 24-hour average flux either side of the centre line. Peak cycles are about eight hours off, but hey, no biggie.


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