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eggie Jan 10th 2006 8:38 pm

Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 
The man I love was just sent back to Belfast (B-2 Visitor Renewal Visa was denied). He has applied for a Green Card but we have not heard anything yet. We would like to marry but I am a single mother and full time student. We are getting mixed reports about if I would have to prove financial support in order for us to marry? Can he show bank records and prove he can support himself for 90 days and that suffice in order for us to get a Fiance Visa? Does anyone know if we marry in Belfast if I have to have an Affidavit of Support after marriage? Would it be better for us to marry in Belfast or America? Any advise would be wonderful. We have looked into a work visa and a student visa and neither of those will work.

Carl Jan 10th 2006 8:45 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by eggie
The man I love was just sent back to Belfast (B-2 Visitor Renewal Visa was denied). He has applied for a Green Card but we have not heard anything yet. We would like to marry but I am a single mother and full time student. We are getting mixed reports about if I would have to prove financial support in order for us to marry? Can he show bank records and prove he can support himself for 90 days and that suffice in order for us to get a Fiance Visa? Does anyone know if we marry in Belfast if I have to have an Affidavit of Support after marriage? Would it be better for us to marry in Belfast or America? Any advise would be wonderful. We have looked into a work visa and a student visa and neither of those will work.

My advice - move to Belfast.

eggie Jan 10th 2006 8:47 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by Carl
My advice - move to Belfast.

Do you have any advice that I can actually use......my ex-husband will never let the children out of the country and he will have to sign for their passports.

MrDub Jan 10th 2006 8:49 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by eggie
The man I love was just sent back to Belfast (B-2 Visitor Renewal Visa was denied). He has applied for a Green Card but we have not heard anything yet. We would like to marry but I am a single mother and full time student. We are getting mixed reports about if I would have to prove financial support in order for us to marry? Can he show bank records and prove he can support himself for 90 days and that suffice in order for us to get a Fiance Visa? Does anyone know if we marry in Belfast if I have to have an Affidavit of Support after marriage? Would it be better for us to marry in Belfast or America? Any advise would be wonderful. We have looked into a work visa and a student visa and neither of those will work.

He cannot sponsor himself initially on K1 Visa (I think after 6 months its ok). You would have to sponsor him, though if you do not meet the salary requirement you can do a joint sponsor (s).

The whole process takes about a year....no short cuts available unfortauntly.

eggie Jan 10th 2006 8:53 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by MrDub
He cannot sponsor himself initially on K1 Visa (I think after 6 months its ok). You would have to sponsor him, though if you do not meet the salary requirement you can do a joint sponsor (s).

The whole process takes about a year....no short cuts available unfortauntly.

What about if we married first and the applied for a K-3 Visa?

MrDub Jan 10th 2006 8:59 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by eggie
What about if we married first and the applied for a K-3 Visa?

I think a better idea (I went the K1 route). I think the actually processing time is not too different but when your then husband moves to the US he will have a lot less issues to deal with here. (PS my time line is based upon 2 years ago)

Noorah101 Jan 10th 2006 9:01 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by eggie
What about if we married first and the applied for a K-3 Visa?

Hi eggie,

Both the fiance and the spouse visas need the USC to prove 125% of the minimum poverty amount, either through income or assets. The guideline is here: http://www.nilc.org/immlawpolicy/pubchg/pubchg008.htm

For the fiance visa, he *might* be able to self-sponsor, you'll have to check with the requirements of the embassy in Belfast. London allows it, but it's rare.

If you don't meet the requirements, you can get a joint sponsor to help you. They must meet the financial requirements for their family size plus the immigrant.

Best Wishes,
Rene

eggie Jan 10th 2006 9:02 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by MrDub
I think a better idea (I went the K1 route). I think the actually processing time is not too different but when your then husband moves to the US he will have a lot less issues to deal with here. (PS my time line is based upon 2 years ago)

I'm sorry to be obtuse, you think it would be better to apply for the K1 or marry and then apply for the K3?

jeninifer Jan 10th 2006 9:05 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by eggie
The man I love was just sent back to Belfast (B-2 Visitor Renewal Visa was denied). He has applied for a Green Card but we have not heard anything yet. We would like to marry but I am a single mother and full time student. We are getting mixed reports about if I would have to prove financial support in order for us to marry? Can he show bank records and prove he can support himself for 90 days and that suffice in order for us to get a Fiance Visa? Does anyone know if we marry in Belfast if I have to have an Affidavit of Support after marriage? Would it be better for us to marry in Belfast or America? Any advise would be wonderful. We have looked into a work visa and a student visa and neither of those will work.

Hi!

My husband moved here from Belfast in 2002. We were married in the US in April 2002 and adjusted his status from there. He was just visiting on his Visa Waiver and we decided to get married! So, my situation is a little different from yours, but I wanted to say hi since we both will have husbands from the same city!

Do you have a parent that can fill out the Affidavit of Support on behalf of your fiance? I was laid-off at the time so my father filled out the Affidavit of Support.

Have you considered applying for the Fiance's Visa?

I'm sorry that I don't really have any answers, but I'm sure that the wonderful people of this group will offer their expertise.

Best of luck to you! It's a long, hard road any way you look at it, but in the end it's all worth it!

We've recently submitted the N-400 and are patiently waiting.

Jen

fatbrit Jan 10th 2006 9:08 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by eggie
The man I love was just sent back to Belfast (B-2 Visitor Renewal Visa was denied). He has applied for a Green Card but we have not heard anything yet. We would like to marry but I am a single mother and full time student. We are getting mixed reports about if I would have to prove financial support in order for us to marry? Can he show bank records and prove he can support himself for 90 days and that suffice in order for us to get a Fiance Visa? Does anyone know if we marry in Belfast if I have to have an Affidavit of Support after marriage? Would it be better for us to marry in Belfast or America? Any advise would be wonderful. We have looked into a work visa and a student visa and neither of those will work.

How did he "apply for a Green Card"?

Who sent him back?

You don't need to prove any financial aspects to marry, although most jurisdictions will, I'm sure, charge you some sort of a fee. AFAIK, most governments still allow poor people to marry.

Don't believe that USCIS has a requirement that you need to show funds to support yourself for 90 days on any of the marriage/fiancee visas. They do have financial requirements for visas, but these are not them.

You seem to have no understanding of the processes involved whatsoever. You would be better investigating the FAQs on Visajourney.com before asking such open-ended questions.

On your question of whether it would be easier to marry in Belfast or the US, I would suggest Belfast since he has already it would seem possibly raised red flags for his entrance to the US if you were intending to marry over here. But getting married is not your problem; securing a suitable method for him to live here with you in the US would seem to be the crux of the problem.

eggie Jan 10th 2006 9:09 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by jeninifer
Hi!

My husband moved here from Belfast in 2002. We were married in the US in April 2002 and adjusted his status from there. He was just visiting on his Visa Waiver and we decided to get married! So, my situation is a little different from yours, but I wanted to say hi since we both will have husbands from the same city!

Do you have a parent that can fill out the Affidavit of Support on behalf of your fiance? I was laid-off at the time so my father filled out the Affidavit of Support.

Have you considered applying for the Fiance's Visa?

I'm sorry that I don't really have any answers, but I'm sure that the wonderful people of this group will offer their expertise.

Best of luck to you! It's a long, hard road any way you look at it, but in the end it's all worth it!

We've recently submitted the N-400 and are patiently waiting.

Jen

Jen
Thank you for your kind words. My parents have both retired so I don't think they are an option. He has a sister here, but she also makes very little money.

Noorah101 Jan 10th 2006 9:11 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by eggie
Jen
Thank you for your kind words. My parents have both retired so I don't think they are an option. He has a sister here, but she also makes very little money.

Retirement income is allowed. Look at the link I sent you, and see if they qualify for a family of 3 (assuming they are not financially responsible for anyone else).

His sister can only do it if she is a PR or Citizen.

I'm also curious how your man applied for a green card?

Rene

Noorah101 Jan 10th 2006 9:15 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 
Here's a good link to get you started learning about the process and your options:

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=164511

Rene

eggie Jan 10th 2006 9:16 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by fatbrit
How did he "apply for a Green Card"?

Who sent him back?

You don't need to prove any financial aspects to marry, although most jurisdictions will, I'm sure, charge you some sort of a fee. AFAIK, most governments still allow poor people to marry.

Don't believe that USCIS has a requirement that you need to show funds to support yourself for 90 days on any of the marriage/fiancee visas. They do have financial requirements for visas, but these are not them.

You seem to have no understanding of the processes involved whatsoever. You would be better investigating the FAQs on Visajourney.com before asking such open-ended questions.

On your question of whether it would be easier to marry in Belfast or the US, I would suggest Belfast since he has already it would seem possibly raised red flags for his entrance to the US if you were intending to marry over here. But getting married is not your problem; securing a suitable method for him to live here with you in the US would seem to be the crux of the problem.

My word........My confusion is because we have gotten very mixed stories from different sources, not because of my lack of understanding of the processes involved. Thank you so much for your kindness however. As a matter a fact getting married is one of our problems because we would like to do everything the correct way and not hold things up any further. My "open-ended" questions have delivered some responses that have been helpful to me. And finally the American Government, specifically Immigration Services sent him back.

fatbrit Jan 10th 2006 9:23 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by eggie
My word........My confusion is because we have gotten very mixed stories from different sources, not because of my lack of understanding of the processes involved. Thank you so much for your kindness however. As a matter a fact getting married is one of our problems because we would like to do everything the correct way and not hold things up any further. My "open-ended" questions have delivered some responses that have been helpful to me. And finally the American Government, specifically Immigration Services sent him back.

How did they send him back? Has he got a ban? Did they cancel his visa? Did they make annotations in his passport? This may be important for your future plans.

Also, you didn't answer the question about "apply for the GC". This part of your post I just didn't understand and you may have done things that also have future consequences. I was also confused about why he had a B-2 visa -- it is unusual for these to be issued to UK citizens.

Also, while we're there...
Does he have any criminal record whatsoever and where ever?
Has he got any significant medical problems?
Does he work? Retired? Or what? Does he have capital? Own a house?

meauxna Jan 10th 2006 9:23 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by eggie
My word........My confusion is because we have gotten very mixed stories from different sources, not because of my lack of understanding of the processes involved. Thank you so much for your kindness however. As a matter a fact getting married is one of our problems because we would like to do everything the correct way and not hold things up any further. My "open-ended" questions have delivered some responses that have been helpful to me. And finally the American Government, specifically Immigration Services sent him back.

Hi,
This is a simple and direct question that will affect what you are able to do in the future:

How did he apply for a Green Card?

One more (comes in a set):
In what way was he "sent back"? What is recorded in his passport, what did he file, what did he receive in the mail?

You two have done things that will impact your future choices. Clear up what's already happened if you want to get any useful information.

eggie Jan 10th 2006 9:25 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by Noorah101
Retirement income is allowed. Look at the link I sent you, and see if they qualify for a family of 3 (assuming they are not financially responsible for anyone else).

His sister can only do it if she is a PR or Citizen.

I'm also curious how your man applied for a green card?

Rene

He applied for a Green Card through usafis.org

fatbrit Jan 10th 2006 9:25 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by meauxna
Hi,
This is a simple and direct question that will affect what you are able to do in the future:

How did he apply for a Green Card?

One more (comes in a set):
In what way was he "sent back"? What is recorded in his passport, what did he file, what did he receive in the mail?

You two have done things that will impact your future choices. Clear up what's already happened if you want to get any useful information.

Snap!

fatbrit Jan 10th 2006 9:29 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by eggie
He applied for a Green Card through usafis.org


Diversity visa lottery scam site! Phew! That's probably okay. Presume he didn't win. Apart from wasting his money, probably not done too much harm.

eggie Jan 10th 2006 9:31 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by meauxna
Hi,
This is a simple and direct question that will affect what you are able to do in the future:

How did he apply for a Green Card?

One more (comes in a set):
In what way was he "sent back"? What is recorded in his passport, what did he file, what did he receive in the mail?

You two have done things that will impact your future choices. Clear up what's already happened if you want to get any useful information.

He received an denial for his B-2 renewal visa and went back in the time stated that he was supposed to.

Hypertweeky Jan 10th 2006 9:35 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by fatbrit
Snap!

What's that supposed to mean??.

To the OP:
How did he get sent back??, was it a voluntary departure??, was he under removal proceedings??

fatbrit Jan 10th 2006 9:37 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by Hypertweeky
What's that supposed to mean??.

It means we both posted the same questions at the same time. It's taken from a children's card game. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snap_%28game%29

eggie Jan 10th 2006 9:40 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by Hypertweeky
What's that supposed to mean??.

To the OP:
How did he get sent back??, was it a voluntary departure??, was he under removal proceedings??

No, It wasn't voluntary, I mean they didn't drag him out but his B-2 visa was denied so he had to leave. He was not under removal proceedings, he went before the time he needed to leave so there is not a ban on him as far as returning.

eggie Jan 10th 2006 9:41 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by Hypertweeky
He was granted voluntary departure then.
He wasn't deported (removal proceedings) so it shouldn't be too bad, a friend of mine left the country when she was told to, unfortunately she overstayed for about 200 days so she had to file a waiver and then file for the K1 visa.

no, he is fine there.

Hypertweeky Jan 10th 2006 9:41 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by fatbrit
It means we both posted the same questions at the same time. It's taken from a children's card game. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snap_%28game%29

Interesting link, thanks!!
I though you were refering to That's so raven's SNAP!!;)

fatbrit Jan 10th 2006 9:43 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by eggie
No, It wasn't voluntary, I mean they didn't drag him out but his B-2 visa was denied so he had to leave. He was not under removal proceedings, he went before the time he needed to leave so there is not a ban on him as far as returning.


Does he have any criminal record whatsoever and where ever?
Has he got any significant medical problems?
Does he work? Retired? Or what? Does he have capital? Own a house?

Why did he have a B-2 visa -- it is unusual for these to be issued to UK citizens. Has he had previous US visa issues?

eggie Jan 10th 2006 9:47 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by fatbrit
Does he have any criminal record whatsoever and where ever?
Has he got any significant medical problems?
Does he work? Retired? Or what? Does he have capital? Own a house?

Why did he have a B-2 visa -- it is unusual for these to be issued to UK citizens. Has he had previous US visa issues?

No criminal record whatsoever.
No medical problems.
He did security in Belfast until he came over here, now he is looking again since he is there again.
Yes he has capital.
He does not own a house, he and his ex sold it.
He had a B-2 Visa because he was advised that that would be the easiest for him to get until he could get his green card, apparently he was advised wrong!!!!!!

Hypertweeky Jan 10th 2006 9:47 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by eggie
No, It wasn't voluntary, I mean they didn't drag him out but his B-2 visa was denied so he had to leave. He was not under removal proceedings, he went before the time he needed to leave so there is not a ban on him as far as returning.

Oh I see!. I tried extending my VWP (I didn't know you couldn't ask for an extension under this program.. I was a newbie!), they sent me a letter saying they denied my request.. went back to Spain, got married, filled out the forms for the visa, 72 days later I had the spousal visa in my hands!, no eyebrows raised.
I though he got deported, aww you scared the heck out of me!!.
I think you guys should start filing out the paperwork!

Ps: Brits can travel under the VWP, why did he get a B2?

Hypertweeky Jan 10th 2006 9:50 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by eggie
No criminal record whatsoever.
No medical problems.
He did security in Belfast until he came over here, now he is looking again since he is there again.
Yes he has capital.
He does not own a house, he and his ex sold it.
He had a B-2 Visa because he was advised that that would be the easiest for him to get until he could get his green card, apparently he was advised wrong!!!!!!

He was told the best way to get a green card was to travel under a B2?? :scared: :confused:
Did you guys know each other at that time?, not trying to scare you but entering the US with preconceived intent of getting married under the VWP or B2 and file for AOS is Illegal :scared:

eggie Jan 10th 2006 9:51 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by Hypertweeky
Oh I see!. I tried extending my VWP (I didn't know you couldn't ask for an extension under this program.. I was a newbie!), they sent me a letter saying they denied my request.. went back to Spain, got married, filled out the forms for the visa, 72 days later I had the spousal visa in my hands!, no eyebrows raised.
I though he got deported, aww you scared the heck out of me!!.
I think you guys should start filing out the paperwork!

Ps: Brits can travel under the VWP, why did he get a B2?

Heck if I know that was before we met? You think we should marry first?

eggie Jan 10th 2006 9:52 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by Hypertweeky
He was told the best way to get a green card was to travel under a B2?? :scared: :confused:

No I believe he was told the best way to get over here to apply was on a B2, but again that was before we met.

fatbrit Jan 10th 2006 9:54 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by eggie
No criminal record whatsoever.
No medical problems.
He did security in Belfast until he came over here, now he is looking again since he is there again.
Yes he has capital.
He does not own a house, he and his ex sold it.
He had a B-2 Visa because he was advised that that would be the easiest for him to get until he could get his green card, apparently he was advised wrong!!!!!!


Okay -- so my summation is:

One blotch: entry record suggesting he would be more likely to be refused entry were he to visit again. Applying for extensions to a visitor's visa is usually the end of the road in my experience unless you were wired up to heart monitors and running up hospital bills at the time.

Everything else looks good except the financial aspect. Time for you to do your homework. Go to the link Noorah provided and tell us how much you'll need in terms of income. Capital is substitutable at 5x if you or he has any of this.

Hypertweeky Jan 10th 2006 9:58 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by eggie
No I believe he was told the best way to get over here to apply was on a B2, but again that was before we met.

Don't mind my other post then, lol.. You got me scared again!!

K1 or K3 will work. The question is.. where do you want to get married?, Do you want your husband to be able to leave the country without paying for advance of parole?, do you need him to work right away?

eggie Jan 10th 2006 9:59 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by fatbrit
Okay -- so my summation is:

One blotch: entry record suggesting he would be more likely to be refused entry were he to visit again. Applying for extensions to a visitor's visa is usually the end of the road in my experience unless you were wired up to heart monitors and running up hospital bills at the time.

Everything else looks good except the financial aspect. Time for you to do your homework. Go to the link Noorah provided and tell us how much you'll need in terms of income. Capital is substitutable at 5x if you or he has any of this.

Oh my god......that is alot of money!! With my kids and I we are gonna need a lot of money.

Hypertweeky Jan 10th 2006 10:01 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by fatbrit
Okay -- so my summation is:

One blotch: entry record suggesting he would be more likely to be refused entry were he to visit again. Applying for extensions to a visitor's visa is usually the end of the road in my experience unless you were wired up to heart monitors and running up hospital bills at the time.

Everything else looks good except the financial aspect. Time for you to do your homework. Go to the link Noorah provided and tell us how much you'll need in terms of income. Capital is substitutable at 5x if you or he has any of this.

I think you are right, his situation is pretty much like mine was, I got the K3 visa with no problems!
All You need is someone (US Citizen/PR) with money:):)

eggie Jan 10th 2006 10:01 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by Hypertweeky
Don't mind my other post then, lol.. You got me scared again!!

K1 or K3 will work. The question is.. where do you want to get married?, Do you want your husband to be able to leave the country without paying for advance of parole?, do you need him to work right away?

I am still a bit frightened about the afidavit of support!!!

fatbrit Jan 10th 2006 10:01 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by eggie
Oh my god......that is alot of money!! With my kids and I we are gonna need a lot of money.


How much! I'm not going to go do the math for you! Give us the figure!

Noorah101 Jan 10th 2006 10:02 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by eggie
Oh my god......that is alot of money!! With my kids and I we are gonna need a lot of money.

In that case, look into your parents being joint sponsors. Retirement income is acceptable, and they only need to show enough to cover themselves + the immigrant, if they aren't supporting anyone else.

Rene

eggie Jan 10th 2006 10:02 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by Hypertweeky
I think you are right, his situation is pretty much like mine was, I got the K3 visa with no problems!
All You need is someone (US Citizen/PR) with money:):)

I don't have that person!!!

eggie Jan 10th 2006 10:04 pm

Re: Want to Marry a Man from Belfast
 

Originally Posted by fatbrit
How much! I'm not going to go do the math for you! Give us the figure!

$28,000


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