are they getting rid of family class visa completely?
May 8th 2007, 7:48 pm
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Re: are they getting rid of family class visa completely?
Boiler wrote on 05/08/07 20:43:
> The question is: Can our immigration system increase the percentage of
> employment-based immigrants without leaving family-based immigrants out
> in the cold?
Not going to happen, anyway. While all economists agree that a focus on
employment-based immigration makes economic sense (employment-based immigrants
tend to be better educated than family-based immigrants, for example), this is a
way too emotionally charged topic to have any rational discussion. And
politicians always have their special interests, anyway (I remember, for
example, that when the H1 was introduced in 1989 by Ted Kennedy, 15K or so H1
visas were set aside for people from Northern Ireland...)
Now, Bush desperately wants to have at least one positive legacy of his
presidency, so he is going to push for some immigration reform. But a big part
of that will be pandering to the Latino vote, and that means family immigration.
> The Senate has set aside the last two weeks in May to discuss
> Comprehensive Immigration Reform.
Nothing is going to happen in two weeks. If anything, it will highlight the big
division in the population about this.
The only good thing is that the anti-immigrants bicker among themselves, as is
evident, e.g., by the disintegration of the so-called Minutemen, with the
founder thrown out and now starting a competing organization...
> The question is: Can our immigration system increase the percentage of
> employment-based immigrants without leaving family-based immigrants out
> in the cold?
Not going to happen, anyway. While all economists agree that a focus on
employment-based immigration makes economic sense (employment-based immigrants
tend to be better educated than family-based immigrants, for example), this is a
way too emotionally charged topic to have any rational discussion. And
politicians always have their special interests, anyway (I remember, for
example, that when the H1 was introduced in 1989 by Ted Kennedy, 15K or so H1
visas were set aside for people from Northern Ireland...)
Now, Bush desperately wants to have at least one positive legacy of his
presidency, so he is going to push for some immigration reform. But a big part
of that will be pandering to the Latino vote, and that means family immigration.
> The Senate has set aside the last two weeks in May to discuss
> Comprehensive Immigration Reform.
Nothing is going to happen in two weeks. If anything, it will highlight the big
division in the population about this.
The only good thing is that the anti-immigrants bicker among themselves, as is
evident, e.g., by the disintegration of the so-called Minutemen, with the
founder thrown out and now starting a competing organization...
May 9th 2007, 3:12 am
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Re: are they getting rid of family class visa completely?
If it was not clear, I was quoting....
I did not, but according to the Rocky Mountain News using the term Illegal is racist bile.
Not fair at all, slave owners had a large financial interest in the well being of their slaves, they represented a significant capital investment.
We don't enforce the existing H-1B laws as well as we should. And you say 10% of LEGAL immigrants are qualifying through their jobs. A whole lot of other "illegal" immigrants are de facto qualifying through their jobs too.
Unless we truly turn to a skills-based system where skills are evaluated by the government and do NOT require sponsorship by a specific company, hell, bring back slavery. The slave owners didn't care about family unification, either.
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May 9th 2007, 8:58 am
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Re: are they getting rid of family class visa completely?
from what I heard there is enough room in Jacksonville, FL for the whole
planet... and that is just one tiny slice of the USA. Perhaps welfare might
be an issue but why is the government giving welfare and social security?
According to the founding father and the constitution it is not the
government's job to babysit the people. So maybe get rid of these welfare
(except for those who are in extreme financial hardship) and even then limit
welfare to a month or less, and all those social security crap and then no
more excuse to complain about immigrants and save a LOT of tax dollars.
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planet... and that is just one tiny slice of the USA. Perhaps welfare might
be an issue but why is the government giving welfare and social security?
According to the founding father and the constitution it is not the
government's job to babysit the people. So maybe get rid of these welfare
(except for those who are in extreme financial hardship) and even then limit
welfare to a month or less, and all those social security crap and then no
more excuse to complain about immigrants and save a LOT of tax dollars.
--
TAI FU
May 9th 2007, 12:11 pm
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Re: are they getting rid of family class visa completely?
On May 8, 10:05 pm, dbj1000 <[email protected]>
wrote:
> > What is important is there is not enough room for the whole freaking
> > planet
> > inside the US!!!!
>
> > "tai fu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> > >I heard there are talks of completely eliminating family class visa,
> > >meaning that only way to get a green card in the future is H1 or H1-B
> > >(both
> > >very hard to get unless you are very important to a company). What is
> > >the
> > >scoop on that?
>
> > > I am guessing family unity isn't important to the government?
>
> > > --
> > > TAI FU
>
> Get your facts straight GeekBoy. There's plenty of room inside the US
> for the whole freaking planet. In fact, if everyone stood up straight,
> and stopped slouching, there would be room for many more. Not to mention
> if people stand on each other's shoulders.
>
> As of right now, the world population is 6,710,784,472.
>
> The area of the US is over 3,700,000 square miles, or
> 103,150,080,000,000 square feet.
>
> So, any idiot can see that there's at least 15,371 square feet per
> freaking person on the planet. If that's not enough for you then you're
> a very selfish person... or an unusually large one.
>
> --
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Oh really? That woul be 0.352869 acres per person. That doesn't
account for space we'd need for agriculture, Wildlife, National Parks,
and the uninhabitable places in the U.S. Tell me, would you like to
live in Alaska?
wrote:
> > What is important is there is not enough room for the whole freaking
> > planet
> > inside the US!!!!
>
> > "tai fu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> > >I heard there are talks of completely eliminating family class visa,
> > >meaning that only way to get a green card in the future is H1 or H1-B
> > >(both
> > >very hard to get unless you are very important to a company). What is
> > >the
> > >scoop on that?
>
> > > I am guessing family unity isn't important to the government?
>
> > > --
> > > TAI FU
>
> Get your facts straight GeekBoy. There's plenty of room inside the US
> for the whole freaking planet. In fact, if everyone stood up straight,
> and stopped slouching, there would be room for many more. Not to mention
> if people stand on each other's shoulders.
>
> As of right now, the world population is 6,710,784,472.
>
> The area of the US is over 3,700,000 square miles, or
> 103,150,080,000,000 square feet.
>
> So, any idiot can see that there's at least 15,371 square feet per
> freaking person on the planet. If that's not enough for you then you're
> a very selfish person... or an unusually large one.
>
> --
> Posted viahttp://britishexpats.com- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Oh really? That woul be 0.352869 acres per person. That doesn't
account for space we'd need for agriculture, Wildlife, National Parks,
and the uninhabitable places in the U.S. Tell me, would you like to
live in Alaska?
May 9th 2007, 12:55 pm
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Re: are they getting rid of family class visa completely?
I heard there are talks of completely eliminating family class visa, meaning
that only way to get a green card in the future is H1 or H1-B (both very
hard to get unless you are very important to a company). What is the scoop
on that?
I am guessing family unity isn't important to the government?
--
TAI FU
that only way to get a green card in the future is H1 or H1-B (both very
hard to get unless you are very important to a company). What is the scoop
on that?
I am guessing family unity isn't important to the government?
--
TAI FU
