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Old May 25th 2009, 9:33 pm
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Originally Posted by garrettciaran
She couldnt buckle it because she has a big belly, but I'm not judging size.
Don't take this the wrong way please, but she is going to have more than seatbelts to worry about when she moves to the UK if she is that size. I know people over there are getting fatter, but she's going to get a fair amount of abuse I would imagine.
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Don't take this the wrong way please, but she is going to have more than seatbelts to worry about when she moves to the UK if she is that size. I know people over there are getting fatter, but she's going to get a fair amount of abuse I would imagine.
Theres a fair amount of big girls up North, LOL, must be all them pies
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I like tha seat belt law for MA

If a cop see's you without one on he can't stop you unless you commit a different offence Then he can give you a ticket for the seat belt violation
They need to enforce the laws for other things more strongly

I see drivers reading, on the phone, looking at a PC screen, eating meals and with road atlas's spread out on the streering wheel.
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Old May 25th 2009, 10:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Patrick Hasler
I like tha seat belt law for MA

If a cop see's you without one on he can't stop you unless you commit a different offence Then he can give you a ticket for the seat belt violation
That used to be the case in SC, too. No idea if it still is, though.
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I see drivers reading, on the phone, looking at a PC screen, eating meals and with road atlas's spread out on the streering wheel.
And that's just the cops
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Oh but it can....there's a reason state troopers in Maine will tag a slower driver with Mass or NY tags than a Maine tag who is weaving and driving faster, Mainer will more likely get the ticket tossed whilst out of stater won't bother come back to Augusta to contest it.
I'll accept your claim on face value, although you offered no supporting evidence that this is the case. I still stand by my original point - if they didn't break the law they wouldn't get a fine; regardless as to who is being fined, and whether as you claim some are fined more frequently than others, the fact they broke the law created the revenue stream. The police didn't get a revenue stream from innocent 'victims'.
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I'll accept your claim on face value, although you offered no supporting evidence that this is the case. I still stand by my original point - if they didn't break the law they wouldn't get a fine; regardless as to who is being fined, and whether as you claim some are fined more frequently than others, the fact they broke the law created the revenue stream. The police didn't get a revenue stream from innocent 'victims'.
You're missing the point. Policing is only effective with the consent of the community. Key to that is the perception that the police are impartial and motivated by their oaths to uphold the law. Once it becomes the popular view that policing has been degraded to just another form of extortion then that consent begins to break down.
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You're missing the point. Policing is only effective with the consent of the community. Key to that is the perception that the police are impartial and motivated by their oaths to uphold the law. Once it becomes the popular view that policing has been degraded to just another form of extortion then that consent begins to break down.
Our local force seem to be a bunch of arrogant ***** who think that traffic laws apply to everyone but them. Tossers.
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Our local force seem to be a bunch of arrogant ***** who think that traffic laws apply to everyone but them. Tossers.
I got some frozen sprouts today.
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I got some frozen sprouts today.
Good man.

What are you going to do with them? Sprout curry? Omelette? Sprout tacos?
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You're missing the point. Policing is only effective with the consent of the community. Key to that is the perception that the police are impartial and motivated by their oaths to uphold the law. Once it becomes the popular view that policing has been degraded to just another form of extortion then that consent begins to break down.

It is very naive to think that it could ever be the case when "the police are impartial and motivated by their oaths to uphold the law". They are not robots. It goes without saying that some people are more likely to experience leniency. I would imagine leniency is at a personal level, and not at an institutional level.
After hearing Bobs claim, if I had a Mass or NY tags whilst driving through Maine I'd be less likely to gamble on speeding.
The point stands, if you break the law then expect a chance of being fined. If you get away with it then lucky you, but don't bitch if you get a ticket.
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Originally Posted by tonrob
Our local force seem to be a bunch of arrogant ***** who think that traffic laws apply to everyone but them. Tossers.
for our local police. One afternoon when I'd locked myself out of the house a cop sat in his car on our drive for 3 hrs until a locksmith arrived.

One morning when calling the UK I must have missed dialed and dialed 911 instead of 011...an operator immediately came on the phone and asked me various questions to make sure I was OK. No sooner had I put the phone down the local cops were banging on the door.
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No seat belt ...speeding ..... I like this idea
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Originally Posted by thinbrit
After hearing Bobs claim, if I had a Mass or NY tags whilst driving through Maine I'd be less likely to gamble on speeding.
The point stands, if you break the law then expect a chance of being fined. If you get away with it then lucky you, but don't bitch if you get a ticket.
Why are you still bleating on about this? The next time I get a ticket I will react exactly as I please.
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