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Old May 18th 2012, 2:03 am
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The airport to leave the US and return to the UK
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Old May 18th 2012, 2:18 am
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They allowed me entry but said I wouldn't get permission to enter if I came again.
And you fell for that? If the guard didn't think you were fit to enter, why would he admit you? Under the circumstances you describe, the particular border guard you spoke to doesn't get to decide what happens the next time you seek entry. He/She only gets to decide if you enter that time. The next guard will make the determination the next time and is not bound by the opinion of the previous official.
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Old May 18th 2012, 2:22 am
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Well at first he said I was going to be denied started tapping at his PC and as I was asking for a genuine reason as to why he started laughing and said sorry - "im trying to get in the FBI so I have a game face" stamped my passport and and allowed me to enter.

why shouldn't I believe him?
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Well at first he said I was going to be denied started tapping at his PC and as I was asking for a genuine reason as to why he started laughing and said sorry - "im trying to get in the FBI so I have a game face" stamped my passport and and allowed me to enter.

why shouldn't I believe him?
Once he admits you, he cedes any say in what happens the next time. If he determined you were inadmissible, he would have to refuse you or parole you on that attempt. If he admitted you under the VWP, he's indicating that he found you to be admissible. He can't find you unfit to enter the next time and admit you that time.
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Well I wasn't to know that back then.

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Old May 18th 2012, 2:43 am
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Well I wasn't know that back then.
That's understandable. Many people who post here have applied for a visa when told something similar. They apply, are denied the visa, and then denied the ESTA. Only a few opt to stay and earn the 10 year bar. Ideally, you would have traveled with more evidence that you were fit to enter and/or made shorter visits that were farther apart.
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Yeah I understand that. Due to the circumstances that day and then thinking I wouldn't be able to come back just encouraged me to overstay. I know I will have the 10 year ban and I cant say it isn't justified.

I know Its wrong and will except the consequences.
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Yeah I understand that. Due to the circumstances that day and then thinking I wouldn't be able to come back just encouraged me to overstay. I know I will have the 10 year ban and I cant say it isn't justified.

I know Its wrong and will except the consequences.
On the bright side, if you are firmly established in the UK and let a few years go by, they will likely get over it well before the 10 years are up.
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Well that would be great but as it stands now I have no desire to come back here anytime soon. I've had a great time here with all the visits etc within the last three years. Met a ton of awesome people had some amazing times and been all over the east coast. Shame I never went West :-) But it is time I went home.

One final 1000 mile drive to Florida on Monday before I depart for the UK on May 31st!

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Originally Posted by Ragnox
One final 1000 mile drive to Florida on Monday before I depart for the UK on May 31st!
You said you've overstayed 13 months, but that doesn't seem right. You said you entered in February 2011 and were supposed to leave in May 2011. When in May? What date exactly? If you leave the US prior to that same date in May, you'll have only a 3-year ban... not a 10-year ban. The 10-year ban doesn't kick in until you've overstayed 1 year or more. Of course, if you're already 1 year past that date in May, then there's nothing more to add.

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Old May 18th 2012, 1:54 pm
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I should Have left by May 11th 2011
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Originally Posted by Ragnox
I should Have left by May 11th 2011
Had you left the US by May 11 2012, you'd only have a 3-year ban. Oh well... too late now! Seven years extra for being one week late!

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Originally Posted by Ragnox
One final 1000 mile drive to Florida on Monday before I depart for the UK on May 31st!
How did you manage the DL and Insurance?
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How did you manage the DL and Insurance?
...and money?
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Old May 18th 2012, 2:42 pm
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I wont be driving. I own a business back in the UK. Money and costs are of no concern to me.
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