Irish Citizen Question for E2
Apr 24th 2003, 7:15 am
#1
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Re: Irish Citizen Question for E2
>On Fri, 25 Apr 2003 07:32:51 +0100, Barry wrote:
>Ireland allows citizenship by marriage and you don't need a Irish passport
>to be considered an Irish citizen under Irish law in this case.
No but you would need a citizenship certificate - either a
post-nuptial citizenship or naturalisation certificate.
Citizenship by marriage is not automatic, you have to apply for it.
And in fact, post-nuptial citizenship must be applied for by 29 Nov
2005.
http://www.irelandemb.org/citizen_changes.html
>What we want to do is to get a E2 investor visa in my wife's name (the
>british passport holder) and then I can apply for an EAD as the spouse of an
>E2 visa holder. We are currently living in Ireland
>There are two problems.
>1. If she applies as a British citizen then the treary with the US and
>the UK states that she must prove domicility in the UK.
>2. If she applies as an Irish citizen do we need an Irish passport for
>her?
If she wants the Americans to treat her as an Irish citizen, then she
needs an Irish passport.
Are you an Irish citizen?
>(according to the Irish passport office it currently takes 15 month to
>get an Irish passport for a non Irish born person)
If the person concerned is already an Irish citizen, then it should
only take a few weeks to issue an Irish passport.
However, if the person is not currently an Irish citizen and needs to
make an application for registration, naturalisation or post-nuptial
citizenship, then the whole process will take many months.
Only when some has actually become an Irish citizen can an Irish
passport be issued.
Jeremy
This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
>Ireland allows citizenship by marriage and you don't need a Irish passport
>to be considered an Irish citizen under Irish law in this case.
No but you would need a citizenship certificate - either a
post-nuptial citizenship or naturalisation certificate.
Citizenship by marriage is not automatic, you have to apply for it.
And in fact, post-nuptial citizenship must be applied for by 29 Nov
2005.
http://www.irelandemb.org/citizen_changes.html
>What we want to do is to get a E2 investor visa in my wife's name (the
>british passport holder) and then I can apply for an EAD as the spouse of an
>E2 visa holder. We are currently living in Ireland
>There are two problems.
>1. If she applies as a British citizen then the treary with the US and
>the UK states that she must prove domicility in the UK.
>2. If she applies as an Irish citizen do we need an Irish passport for
>her?
If she wants the Americans to treat her as an Irish citizen, then she
needs an Irish passport.
Are you an Irish citizen?
>(according to the Irish passport office it currently takes 15 month to
>get an Irish passport for a non Irish born person)
If the person concerned is already an Irish citizen, then it should
only take a few weeks to issue an Irish passport.
However, if the person is not currently an Irish citizen and needs to
make an application for registration, naturalisation or post-nuptial
citizenship, then the whole process will take many months.
Only when some has actually become an Irish citizen can an Irish
passport be issued.
Jeremy
This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
Apr 24th 2003, 2:04 pm
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Irish Citizen Question for E2
Hi,
Can an Irish citizen (citizenship by marriage) currently living in
Ireland apply for an E2 investor treaty while currently only holding a
British passport.
Thanks
Barry
Can an Irish citizen (citizenship by marriage) currently living in
Ireland apply for an E2 investor treaty while currently only holding a
British passport.
Thanks
Barry
Apr 24th 2003, 5:11 pm
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Re: Irish Citizen Question for E2
On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 15:04:13 +0100, Barry wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can an Irish citizen (citizenship by marriage) currently living in
> Ireland apply for an E2 investor treaty while currently only holding a
> British passport.
If he is an Irish citizen, how come he is holding a British Passport? If
you are claiming a citizenship, you need to have a passport of that
citizenship for US immigration.
By the way, few countries nowadays still grant citizenship by marriage,
are you sure that Ireland still does? I won't rule it out, just asking.
As for the E-2, I don't see why not, although I didn't memorize the list
of countries eligible.
> Hi,
>
> Can an Irish citizen (citizenship by marriage) currently living in
> Ireland apply for an E2 investor treaty while currently only holding a
> British passport.
If he is an Irish citizen, how come he is holding a British Passport? If
you are claiming a citizenship, you need to have a passport of that
citizenship for US immigration.
By the way, few countries nowadays still grant citizenship by marriage,
are you sure that Ireland still does? I won't rule it out, just asking.
As for the E-2, I don't see why not, although I didn't memorize the list
of countries eligible.
Apr 25th 2003, 6:32 am
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Re: Irish Citizen Question for E2
Ireland allows citizenship by marriage and you don't need a Irish passport
to be considered an Irish citizen under Irish law in this case.
What we want to do is to get a E2 investor visa in my wife's name (the
british passport holder) and then I can apply for an EAD as the spouse of an
E2 visa holder. We are currently living in Ireland
There are two problems.
1. If she applies as a British citizen then the treary with the US and
the UK states that she must prove domicility in the UK.
2. If she applies as an Irish citizen do we need an Irish passport for
her? (according to the Irish passport office it currently takes 15 month to
get an Irish passport for a non Irish born person)
Ingo Pakleppa wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 15:04:13 +0100, Barry wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Can an Irish citizen (citizenship by marriage) currently living in
> > Ireland apply for an E2 investor treaty while currently only holding a
> > British passport.
> If he is an Irish citizen, how come he is holding a British Passport? If
> you are claiming a citizenship, you need to have a passport of that
> citizenship for US immigration.
> By the way, few countries nowadays still grant citizenship by marriage,
> are you sure that Ireland still does? I won't rule it out, just asking.
> As for the E-2, I don't see why not, although I didn't memorize the list
> of countries eligible.
to be considered an Irish citizen under Irish law in this case.
What we want to do is to get a E2 investor visa in my wife's name (the
british passport holder) and then I can apply for an EAD as the spouse of an
E2 visa holder. We are currently living in Ireland
There are two problems.
1. If she applies as a British citizen then the treary with the US and
the UK states that she must prove domicility in the UK.
2. If she applies as an Irish citizen do we need an Irish passport for
her? (according to the Irish passport office it currently takes 15 month to
get an Irish passport for a non Irish born person)
Ingo Pakleppa wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 15:04:13 +0100, Barry wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Can an Irish citizen (citizenship by marriage) currently living in
> > Ireland apply for an E2 investor treaty while currently only holding a
> > British passport.
> If he is an Irish citizen, how come he is holding a British Passport? If
> you are claiming a citizenship, you need to have a passport of that
> citizenship for US immigration.
> By the way, few countries nowadays still grant citizenship by marriage,
> are you sure that Ireland still does? I won't rule it out, just asking.
> As for the E-2, I don't see why not, although I didn't memorize the list
> of countries eligible.
Apr 25th 2003, 3:33 pm
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Re: Irish Citizen Question for E2
On Fri, 25 Apr 2003 07:32:51 +0100, Barry wrote:
>
> Ireland allows citizenship by marriage and you don't need a Irish passport
> to be considered an Irish citizen under Irish law in this case.
Generally, few, if any, countries require a passport just to be a citizen.
What I meant is that if you travel to the US and claim Irish citizenship,
then you would need an Irish passport.
> What we want to do is to get a E2 investor visa in my wife's name (the
> british passport holder) and then I can apply for an EAD as the spouse of an
> E2 visa holder. We are currently living in Ireland
> There are two problems.
> 1. If she applies as a British citizen then the treary with the US and
> the UK states that she must prove domicility in the UK.
Makes sense. With the North Ireland situation, it might be possible to
stretch this a bit? I really don't know.
> 2. If she applies as an Irish citizen do we need an Irish passport for
> her? (according to the Irish passport office it currently takes 15 month to
> get an Irish passport for a non Irish born person)
>
>
>
> Ingo Pakleppa wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 15:04:13 +0100, Barry wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Can an Irish citizen (citizenship by marriage) currently living in
>> > Ireland apply for an E2 investor treaty while currently only holding a
>> > British passport.
>> If he is an Irish citizen, how come he is holding a British Passport? If
>> you are claiming a citizenship, you need to have a passport of that
>> citizenship for US immigration.
>> By the way, few countries nowadays still grant citizenship by marriage,
>> are you sure that Ireland still does? I won't rule it out, just asking.
>> As for the E-2, I don't see why not, although I didn't memorize the list
>> of countries eligible.
>
> Ireland allows citizenship by marriage and you don't need a Irish passport
> to be considered an Irish citizen under Irish law in this case.
Generally, few, if any, countries require a passport just to be a citizen.
What I meant is that if you travel to the US and claim Irish citizenship,
then you would need an Irish passport.
> What we want to do is to get a E2 investor visa in my wife's name (the
> british passport holder) and then I can apply for an EAD as the spouse of an
> E2 visa holder. We are currently living in Ireland
> There are two problems.
> 1. If she applies as a British citizen then the treary with the US and
> the UK states that she must prove domicility in the UK.
Makes sense. With the North Ireland situation, it might be possible to
stretch this a bit? I really don't know.
> 2. If she applies as an Irish citizen do we need an Irish passport for
> her? (according to the Irish passport office it currently takes 15 month to
> get an Irish passport for a non Irish born person)
>
>
>
> Ingo Pakleppa wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 15:04:13 +0100, Barry wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Can an Irish citizen (citizenship by marriage) currently living in
>> > Ireland apply for an E2 investor treaty while currently only holding a
>> > British passport.
>> If he is an Irish citizen, how come he is holding a British Passport? If
>> you are claiming a citizenship, you need to have a passport of that
>> citizenship for US immigration.
>> By the way, few countries nowadays still grant citizenship by marriage,
>> are you sure that Ireland still does? I won't rule it out, just asking.
>> As for the E-2, I don't see why not, although I didn't memorize the list
>> of countries eligible.
