immigration fraud
Jan 15th 2006, 9:47 pm
#16
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Location: Kentucky
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Re: immigration fraud
Originally Posted by Mark
I just want her to go back to where she came from. She shouldn't be using me for marriage to come to Canada for the benefit of bringing her lover, making money and also uniting wiith family members. This is very cruel. It is inhuman.
You feel hurt, embarrased, humiliated, angry, and a host of other emotions! This is normal. Admit this to yourself and you'll be a lot better off. You want revenge... plain an simple. She hurt you and now you want to hurt her back in the way you think will make the most impact - denying her a family reunion.
It's not necessarily wrong or bad... it's just the way it is. But you should, at least, be honest with yourself.
Ian
Jan 16th 2006, 12:37 am
#17
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Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 7,598
Re: immigration fraud
Originally Posted by ian-mstm
I thought you said this wasn't about revenge! You said, "it is not a matter of revenge for me." You can't have it both ways.
You feel hurt, embarrased, humiliated, angry, and a host of other emotions! This is normal. Admit this to yourself and you'll be a lot better off. You want revenge... plain an simple. She hurt you and now you want to hurt her back in the way you think will make the most impact - denying her a family reunion.
It's not necessarily wrong or bad... it's just the way it is. But you should, at least, be honest with yourself.
Ian
You feel hurt, embarrased, humiliated, angry, and a host of other emotions! This is normal. Admit this to yourself and you'll be a lot better off. You want revenge... plain an simple. She hurt you and now you want to hurt her back in the way you think will make the most impact - denying her a family reunion.
It's not necessarily wrong or bad... it's just the way it is. But you should, at least, be honest with yourself.
Ian
This is very common. I've seen two CR1 (still within the initial 2 years) in the US married to each other with the 4 year old kid they had together.
Jan 16th 2006, 1:18 am
#18
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Re: immigration fraud
Mark wrote:
> Of course, this is my side of the story. You believe what you want. I
> am not trying to get out of the domestic violence case to get out of
> this situation. That is a whole separate issue. I understand where
> you're coming from, and, if I was someone else reading the original
> posting, I also would have doubts, just like you. This is what makes
> my situation much complicated...
If I were you, I would do more than just stay in defensive position.
Bu that, I mean, I would see whether I can sue her for using me to
enter Canada via marraige. But, if you really hit her or something and
she didn't take it and is doing this, you'd better not have a history
of physical violence with anyone who would come out and speak against
you. Personally, I am wondering why she is so quick to file these
charges against you. It seems like she knows the laws and is trying to
play for her benefit.
> Truth is the truth. I will post this publicly by choice. I am only
> inquiring about the immigration part of it and to seek the full
> motivations behind my so-called wife's plot.
Do not even refer to her as "wife" anymore since it's obvious that her
intention was anything but realmarraige.
> Of course, this is my side of the story. You believe what you want. I
> am not trying to get out of the domestic violence case to get out of
> this situation. That is a whole separate issue. I understand where
> you're coming from, and, if I was someone else reading the original
> posting, I also would have doubts, just like you. This is what makes
> my situation much complicated...
If I were you, I would do more than just stay in defensive position.
Bu that, I mean, I would see whether I can sue her for using me to
enter Canada via marraige. But, if you really hit her or something and
she didn't take it and is doing this, you'd better not have a history
of physical violence with anyone who would come out and speak against
you. Personally, I am wondering why she is so quick to file these
charges against you. It seems like she knows the laws and is trying to
play for her benefit.
> Truth is the truth. I will post this publicly by choice. I am only
> inquiring about the immigration part of it and to seek the full
> motivations behind my so-called wife's plot.
Do not even refer to her as "wife" anymore since it's obvious that her
intention was anything but realmarraige.
Jan 16th 2006, 1:21 am
#19
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Re: immigration fraud
rex_pereira wrote:
[..]
> You should have avoided the asians and chinks. They tend to be
> incredibly manipulative and deceptive in nature. If you had to get
> married to someone from an exotic far-away land, the ladies from Kiev
> are far more beautiful and are very straightforward and fun to interact
> with. 99% of the Indian ladies would have flatly refused to marry
> someone from a different caste or religion. The very fact that she was
> willing to marry you should have sent up red flags .
Did you know for sure that "Mark" is NOT of Indian ethinicity?
[..]
> You should have avoided the asians and chinks. They tend to be
> incredibly manipulative and deceptive in nature. If you had to get
> married to someone from an exotic far-away land, the ladies from Kiev
> are far more beautiful and are very straightforward and fun to interact
> with. 99% of the Indian ladies would have flatly refused to marry
> someone from a different caste or religion. The very fact that she was
> willing to marry you should have sent up red flags .
Did you know for sure that "Mark" is NOT of Indian ethinicity?
Jan 16th 2006, 1:33 am
#20
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Re: immigration fraud
Mark wrote:
> CIC will either ignore this case and put it in their long queue and get
> to it years and years later OR if I am lucky, CIC may give me a chance
> to prove to them that she came to Canada for immigration reasons. I
> don't know why they didn't take any immediate action, as she left me
> within 3 days after arriving to Canada. I think that was because CIC
> probably thought that I commited domestic violence and that I was just
> contacting CIC because I wanted her deported. I actually reported the
> same day that she left, but the immigration officer didn't care very
> much and said to write a letter to their office in Missisauga. She
> already got her visa when she landed here, so it's very likely that she
> will be staying here in Canada and later sponsor her lover from India.
> I am not fully sure why she filed a domestic violence case against me.
> Many immigration lawyers are also puzzled by this, as it is normally
> not the case.
> I believe that her sisters and parents in USA knew of this whole plot,
> but there is no clear evidence. After she left, her family never
> contacted me or issued an appology, so the whole plot was in the
> works...
> I just want her to go back to where she came from. She shouldn't be
> using me for marriage to come to Canada for the benefit of bringing her
> lover, making money and also uniting wiith family members. This is
> very cruel. It is inhuman. Rex, you may be right about a travel
> visa, but I never had imagined such a nightmare, like mine, to happen.
> Thank you for your advice...
Hey,
I just remember something. A son of a family friend of us married a
woman that they didn't really know well. Our family friend were very
good people. They were once very wealthy and educated family but after
nationalization in post-independence, like us they were discriminated.
As were the case with some family, it was a severe blow to them such
that the children ended up not making to college which in turn limited
their choice for marraige from families that were from similar
backgorund as them. This younger son was so good to the parent, instaed
of getting married at young age, he established a career, supported the
parent and then let her mother find a woman for him.
They went and stayed at a hotel on the wedding night. The next morning,
she was gone with all the jewelries. (I heard this form my brother
when I visited home.) I knew him personally. He accompanied me in a
trip to a government office to handle a re dtape. He was such a good
looking hunk - mixed with Arab, English and some native blood - that my
girlfriend who was with me was dying to get his attention ..
Poor guy. I wonder what he's doing now.
> CIC will either ignore this case and put it in their long queue and get
> to it years and years later OR if I am lucky, CIC may give me a chance
> to prove to them that she came to Canada for immigration reasons. I
> don't know why they didn't take any immediate action, as she left me
> within 3 days after arriving to Canada. I think that was because CIC
> probably thought that I commited domestic violence and that I was just
> contacting CIC because I wanted her deported. I actually reported the
> same day that she left, but the immigration officer didn't care very
> much and said to write a letter to their office in Missisauga. She
> already got her visa when she landed here, so it's very likely that she
> will be staying here in Canada and later sponsor her lover from India.
> I am not fully sure why she filed a domestic violence case against me.
> Many immigration lawyers are also puzzled by this, as it is normally
> not the case.
> I believe that her sisters and parents in USA knew of this whole plot,
> but there is no clear evidence. After she left, her family never
> contacted me or issued an appology, so the whole plot was in the
> works...
> I just want her to go back to where she came from. She shouldn't be
> using me for marriage to come to Canada for the benefit of bringing her
> lover, making money and also uniting wiith family members. This is
> very cruel. It is inhuman. Rex, you may be right about a travel
> visa, but I never had imagined such a nightmare, like mine, to happen.
> Thank you for your advice...
Hey,
I just remember something. A son of a family friend of us married a
woman that they didn't really know well. Our family friend were very
good people. They were once very wealthy and educated family but after
nationalization in post-independence, like us they were discriminated.
As were the case with some family, it was a severe blow to them such
that the children ended up not making to college which in turn limited
their choice for marraige from families that were from similar
backgorund as them. This younger son was so good to the parent, instaed
of getting married at young age, he established a career, supported the
parent and then let her mother find a woman for him.
They went and stayed at a hotel on the wedding night. The next morning,
she was gone with all the jewelries. (I heard this form my brother
when I visited home.) I knew him personally. He accompanied me in a
trip to a government office to handle a re dtape. He was such a good
looking hunk - mixed with Arab, English and some native blood - that my
girlfriend who was with me was dying to get his attention ..
Poor guy. I wonder what he's doing now.
Jan 16th 2006, 5:53 pm
#21
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Posts: n/a
Re: immigration fraud
rex_pereira wrote:
> All western European countries have this same policy of
> giving the PR to the spouse immediately without the 2-year conditional
> PR.
The UK has not. There is a 2 year period (previously 1 year) before
indefinite leave can be granted on the basis of marriage, unless the
couple were already married and living together for 2(?) years before
entering the UK, so it is the same in many ways as the US system. There
are, of course, differences. Anybody settled in the UK, not just
citizens can sponsor their spouse, and people generally don't know that
the 2 year's leave to remain as a spouse normally leads to permanent
residence, which may cause problems when dealing with employers or
trying to get a mortgage.
> All western European countries have this same policy of
> giving the PR to the spouse immediately without the 2-year conditional
> PR.
The UK has not. There is a 2 year period (previously 1 year) before
indefinite leave can be granted on the basis of marriage, unless the
couple were already married and living together for 2(?) years before
entering the UK, so it is the same in many ways as the US system. There
are, of course, differences. Anybody settled in the UK, not just
citizens can sponsor their spouse, and people generally don't know that
the 2 year's leave to remain as a spouse normally leads to permanent
residence, which may cause problems when dealing with employers or
trying to get a mortgage.
Jan 17th 2006, 4:13 pm
#22
CA to TX to Jamaica
Joined: Jun 2003
Location: Location, Location.
Posts: 4,887
Re: immigration fraud
Originally Posted by Mark
CIC will either ignore this case and put it in their long queue and get
to it years and years later OR if I am lucky, CIC may give me a chance
to prove to them that she came to Canada for immigration reasons. I
don't know why they didn't take any immediate action, as she left me
within 3 days after arriving to Canada. I think that was because CIC
probably thought that I commited domestic violence and that I was just
contacting CIC because I wanted her deported. I actually reported the
same day that she left, but the immigration officer didn't care very
much and said to write a letter to their office in Missisauga. She
already got her visa when she landed here, so it's very likely that she
will be staying here in Canada and later sponsor her lover from India.
I am not fully sure why she filed a domestic violence case against me.
Many immigration lawyers are also puzzled by this, as it is normally
not the case.
I believe that her sisters and parents in USA knew of this whole plot,
but there is no clear evidence. After she left, her family never
contacted me or issued an appology, so the whole plot was in the
works...
I just want her to go back to where she came from. She shouldn't be
using me for marriage to come to Canada for the benefit of bringing her
lover, making money and also uniting wiith family members. This is
very cruel. It is inhuman. Rex, you may be right about a travel
visa, but I never had imagined such a nightmare, like mine, to happen.
Thank you for your advice...
to it years and years later OR if I am lucky, CIC may give me a chance
to prove to them that she came to Canada for immigration reasons. I
don't know why they didn't take any immediate action, as she left me
within 3 days after arriving to Canada. I think that was because CIC
probably thought that I commited domestic violence and that I was just
contacting CIC because I wanted her deported. I actually reported the
same day that she left, but the immigration officer didn't care very
much and said to write a letter to their office in Missisauga. She
already got her visa when she landed here, so it's very likely that she
will be staying here in Canada and later sponsor her lover from India.
I am not fully sure why she filed a domestic violence case against me.
Many immigration lawyers are also puzzled by this, as it is normally
not the case.
I believe that her sisters and parents in USA knew of this whole plot,
but there is no clear evidence. After she left, her family never
contacted me or issued an appology, so the whole plot was in the
works...
I just want her to go back to where she came from. She shouldn't be
using me for marriage to come to Canada for the benefit of bringing her
lover, making money and also uniting wiith family members. This is
very cruel. It is inhuman. Rex, you may be right about a travel
visa, but I never had imagined such a nightmare, like mine, to happen.
Thank you for your advice...
Whya are you asking us to suppose what her plot or motives were? Seems you're perfectly capable of making that stuff up yourself.
