Noorah101

Shah,

Is there a German Embassy in your own home country? Maybe they can help you faster than the German Embassy in Turkey. Make an appointment with them, go in person, explain what happened, and find out what signing that paper meant. Or, just go ahead to the F-1 interview with the document you receive from the German Embassy in Turkey, and explain it to the officer at that time, and see if they require a waiver of some sort. I have the feeling none of us on here will know exactly what that paper you signed means, we are not German on here, and it seems no one so far has had that situation happen to them. You need to ask German authorities what it means.

Rene

Folinskyinla

Rene:

I can see why you posted this question. But I do believe OP said he "lives" in Turkey. Believe it or not, Turkish citizens also use the consulates in Turkey.

Noorah101

Hi MrF,

I have reason to believe the OP isn't a Turkish citizen, and doesn't actually live in Turkey, but is using the US Embassy in Ankara for his F1 interview.

Rene

shah.sh2000

To Noorah and Folinsky:

I am living in Turkey since 3 month ago because I have to take part in
some exams, But I reside in neighbour country Iran...

Noorah101

Thank you for clearing that up.

shah.sh2000

The German cops were kind men, They did not handcuffed me and I was not fingerprinted....
we just go to Police station then I signed that paper, and because they were in hurry (due to shift change) they suggested me to sign and go...

No I did not pay for those pens and Cops gave them to store staff
Young cop told me that nothing will happen to your visa ...

Today I asked one of my friends who knows law and will become a lawyer soon, he said that:
since German government issued another Schengen visa for you, it looks like that you do not have any criminal problem with Federal Government,
He also said that he knew many others who have been convicted to jail due to Moral turpitude and deported to their home country from Germany and they never could retain their Schengen Visa nor they could obtain it again!

He said that since you have NOT been considered as a risky element to arrive in Germany after six months again, then it can be predicted that there is no record on your file ,and what has been occured is a "Civil matter" between you and that store,
He emphasized that German database of crimes has nothing to do with American Embassies...

I don't know whether I have to trust my friends ideas...
But I have to wait until I will receive police record from German Embassy...

meauxna

What about DUI situations? If a driver refuses the sobriety test(s) isn't that the same as an admission of guilt in some states? That's my recollection, but I confess my days of studying that are in the misty past.

Tracym

I'm not sure. But I don't think it's considered an admission - you'd still go to court as far as I know. I think it's more of an automatic conviction.

I'll have a look and see if I can find any info - I am curious now.

Edit: looked...

It appears that states may automitcally suspend your license, and it is illegal to refuse a breathalyzer. But it doesn't seem to be an automatic DUI

http://www.legalmatch.com/law-librar...athalyzer.html

http://www.totaldui.com/dui_articles...er_refusal.htm

So no, it is not an admission of guilt re. DUI as far as I can tell - but it is something you will be punished for separately.

Tracym

Hi,

It sounds as if perhaps you were just questioned, rather than arrested. I'm just guessing of course, but that might be the case...

If you were neither arrested nor convicted, then I wouldn't think you'd have a problem with a visa.

But like you said, you'll have to see what comes back from the Germans re. the incident.

meauxna

Thank you my little googlefu.. I just didn't have the ability this AM.

Tracym

No problem - I'd been awake for a while (unfortunately)

shah.sh2000

Last news:
Based upon German Criminal Register law , petty offenses like "Shoplifting" are not included in Certificate of Good conduct, Although I have to wait to get
my police clearance but it seems that because it's been a petty offense on their image , However I believe I did nothig wrong and if I have no record then I am not a Criminal even though I emphasize that I was not also arrested (Neither handcuffed nor fingerprinted no fine , no jail ,no court , no fee to pay ), ...

shah.sh2000

Hi there,

today I've just received my certificate of good conduct and it's Clean!
it seems that no record is included , so what should I do now?
Should I say anything to US officer in consulate about that incident in Germany?
Should I fill "Yes" in DS-156 form?
Please help me!!!!!!!!!

Folinskyinla

Hi:

Read your first post. Again, read your first post.

Read the question asked on the DS-156. Again, read your first post.

Now, your question seems to be -- My German police certificate is clean. Should I say anything the Consular Officer about the incident, even if asked? Should I put the correct answer on the DS-156?

I will leave the conclusion to you. As an Iranian you have somewhat of an uphill battle in getting a visa in the first place. Also, I have noted an attitude which might cause problems. [You have still left out some details which cause me to still wonder about what happened.]

Good luck.

ian-mstm

Yes - you *must* fill in "yes". The question asks, "have you EVER been arrested or convicted for any offense or crime". It doesn't ask whether or not your record is clean. It doesn't ask whether or not the charges were dropped. It asks if you were *EVER* arrested... and you were!


If you are specifically asked about it, you must answer truthfully. If it doesn't come up at an interview, you are not obligated to volunteer any further information. Word of advice here... take the CGC with you.

Ian