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Old Mar 25th 2003, 10:03 pm
  #1  
Al
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Hi,

A friend is asking which way to GC is faster:

1- concurrent filing of I-140 (EB-1) with the I-485
OR
2- filing of I-140 (EB-1) with Consular Processing

And WHY?

Thanks,
Al
 
Old Mar 26th 2003, 1:13 am
  #2  
Elizabeth K
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I would be concentrating not on how to do it "faster", but how to get it
through. EB-1 is very hard to prove (and becoming increasingly more
difficult).

"Al" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hi,
    > A friend is asking which way to GC is faster:
    > 1- concurrent filing of I-140 (EB-1) with the I-485
    > OR
    > 2- filing of I-140 (EB-1) with Consular Processing
    > And WHY?
    > Thanks,
    > Al
 
Old Mar 26th 2003, 6:28 am
  #3  
Ingo Pakleppa
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It depends on what you mean by "faster". The total time to a GC will
probably be shorter with consular processing (assuming that the EB-1 will
be approved).

On the other hand, concurrent filing will give you a valid status earlier,
and for many people that is more important than getting the GC approved
early. Also, you can change jobs if the I-485 takes longer than six
months. You can't do that with consular processing.

If you think you qualify for EB-1 but aren't sure, you can do yet another
approach: file an EB-1 and I-485 concurrently, and at the same time also
file an LC for EB-2. If the EB-1 is denied and you are lucky, you might be
able to simply substitute the EB-2.

This is another option that works better with an I-485 than with consular
filing.

On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:03:43 -0800, Al wrote:

    > Hi,
    >
    > A friend is asking which way to GC is faster:
    >
    > 1- concurrent filing of I-140 (EB-1) with the I-485
    > OR
    > 2- filing of I-140 (EB-1) with Consular Processing
    >
    > And WHY?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Al
 
Old Mar 26th 2003, 1:51 pm
  #4  
Al
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My friend has a British passport, a PhD + 35 publications in R&D. So,
EB-1 would not be a problem but he wants to change his job ASAP. In
case, his attorney files I-140/485 and say his I-140 takes 9 months to
be approved, does it mean he could change work immediately because his
I-485 took already more than 6 months? Please clarify!
Thanks,
Al

"Ingo Pakleppa" wrote in message news:...
    > It depends on what you mean by "faster". The total time to a GC will
    > probably be shorter with consular processing (assuming that the EB-1 will
    > be approved).
    >
    > On the other hand, concurrent filing will give you a valid status earlier,
    > and for many people that is more important than getting the GC approved
    > early. Also, you can change jobs if the I-485 takes longer than six
    > months. You can't do that with consular processing.
    >
    > If you think you qualify for EB-1 but aren't sure, you can do yet another
    > approach: file an EB-1 and I-485 concurrently, and at the same time also
    > file an LC for EB-2. If the EB-1 is denied and you are lucky, you might be
    > able to simply substitute the EB-2.
    >
    > This is another option that works better with an I-485 than with consular
    > filing.
    >
    > On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:03:43 -0800, Al wrote:
    >
    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > A friend is asking which way to GC is faster:
    > >
    > > 1- concurrent filing of I-140 (EB-1) with the I-485
    > > OR
    > > 2- filing of I-140 (EB-1) with Consular Processing
    > >
    > > And WHY?
    > >
    > > Thanks,
    > > Al
 
Old Mar 27th 2003, 12:40 am
  #5  
Ingo Pakleppa
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He could change jobs as soon as the I-140 is approved. In addition to the
six-month requirement, there is another requirement that he have an
approved petition.

There is yet another possibility: if he clearly qualifies for an EB-1, he
may be able to self-sponsor and forego the requirement to have a job
offer. Consult a competent immigration attorney.

On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 06:51:56 -0800, Al wrote:

    > My friend has a British passport, a PhD + 35 publications in R&D. So,
    > EB-1 would not be a problem but he wants to change his job ASAP. In
    > case, his attorney files I-140/485 and say his I-140 takes 9 months to
    > be approved, does it mean he could change work immediately because his
    > I-485 took already more than 6 months? Please clarify!
    > Thanks,
    > Al
    >
    > "Ingo Pakleppa" wrote in message news:...
    >> It depends on what you mean by "faster". The total time to a GC will
    >> probably be shorter with consular processing (assuming that the EB-1 will
    >> be approved).
    >>
    >> On the other hand, concurrent filing will give you a valid status earlier,
    >> and for many people that is more important than getting the GC approved
    >> early. Also, you can change jobs if the I-485 takes longer than six
    >> months. You can't do that with consular processing.
    >>
    >> If you think you qualify for EB-1 but aren't sure, you can do yet another
    >> approach: file an EB-1 and I-485 concurrently, and at the same time also
    >> file an LC for EB-2. If the EB-1 is denied and you are lucky, you might be
    >> able to simply substitute the EB-2.
    >>
    >> This is another option that works better with an I-485 than with consular
    >> filing.
    >>
    >> On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:03:43 -0800, Al wrote:
    >>
    >> > Hi,
    >> >
    >> > A friend is asking which way to GC is faster:
    >> >
    >> > 1- concurrent filing of I-140 (EB-1) with the I-485
    >> > OR
    >> > 2- filing of I-140 (EB-1) with Consular Processing
    >> >
    >> > And WHY?
    >> >
    >> > Thanks,
    >> > Al
 
Old Mar 27th 2003, 3:45 am
  #6  
Andrew
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In the case of consular processing, what is considered an appropriate
period after receiving the green card (i.e. after getting your passport
stamped at the consulate) before a change of employer is ok ?

In article ,
"Ingo Pakleppa" wrote:

    > He could change jobs as soon as the I-140 is approved. In addition to the
    > six-month requirement, there is another requirement that he have an
    > approved petition.
    >
    > There is yet another possibility: if he clearly qualifies for an EB-1, he
    > may be able to self-sponsor and forego the requirement to have a job
    > offer. Consult a competent immigration attorney.
    >
    > On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 06:51:56 -0800, Al wrote:
    >
    > > My friend has a British passport, a PhD + 35 publications in R&D. So,
    > > EB-1 would not be a problem but he wants to change his job ASAP. In
    > > case, his attorney files I-140/485 and say his I-140 takes 9 months to
    > > be approved, does it mean he could change work immediately because his
    > > I-485 took already more than 6 months? Please clarify!
    > > Thanks,
    > > Al
    > >
    > > "Ingo Pakleppa" wrote in message
    > > news:...
    > >> It depends on what you mean by "faster". The total time to a GC will
    > >> probably be shorter with consular processing (assuming that the EB-1 will
    > >> be approved).
    > >>
    > >> On the other hand, concurrent filing will give you a valid status earlier,
    > >> and for many people that is more important than getting the GC approved
    > >> early. Also, you can change jobs if the I-485 takes longer than six
    > >> months. You can't do that with consular processing.
    > >>
    > >> If you think you qualify for EB-1 but aren't sure, you can do yet another
    > >> approach: file an EB-1 and I-485 concurrently, and at the same time also
    > >> file an LC for EB-2. If the EB-1 is denied and you are lucky, you might be
    > >> able to simply substitute the EB-2.
    > >>
    > >> This is another option that works better with an I-485 than with consular
    > >> filing.
    > >>
    > >> On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:03:43 -0800, Al wrote:
    > >>
    > >> > Hi,
    > >> >
    > >> > A friend is asking which way to GC is faster:
    > >> >
    > >> > 1- concurrent filing of I-140 (EB-1) with the I-485
    > >> > OR
    > >> > 2- filing of I-140 (EB-1) with Consular Processing
    > >> >
    > >> > And WHY?
    > >> >
    > >> > Thanks,
    > >> > Al
 
Old Mar 27th 2003, 6:57 am
  #7  
Ingo Pakleppa
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There is no general answer beyond "sometimes a month is enough, and
a year or two are almost always safe". It depends on a number of factors,
such as, how long you have worked for that employer before.

On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 20:45:56 -0800, Andrew wrote:

    > In the case of consular processing, what is considered an appropriate
    > period after receiving the green card (i.e. after getting your passport
    > stamped at the consulate) before a change of employer is ok ?
    >
    > In article ,
    > "Ingo Pakleppa" wrote:
    >
    >> He could change jobs as soon as the I-140 is approved. In addition to the
    >> six-month requirement, there is another requirement that he have an
    >> approved petition.
    >>
    >> There is yet another possibility: if he clearly qualifies for an EB-1, he
    >> may be able to self-sponsor and forego the requirement to have a job
    >> offer. Consult a competent immigration attorney.
    >>
    >> On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 06:51:56 -0800, Al wrote:
    >>
    >> > My friend has a British passport, a PhD + 35 publications in R&D. So,
    >> > EB-1 would not be a problem but he wants to change his job ASAP. In
    >> > case, his attorney files I-140/485 and say his I-140 takes 9 months to
    >> > be approved, does it mean he could change work immediately because his
    >> > I-485 took already more than 6 months? Please clarify!
    >> > Thanks,
    >> > Al
    >> >
    >> > "Ingo Pakleppa" wrote in message
    >> > news:...
    >> >> It depends on what you mean by "faster". The total time to a GC will
    >> >> probably be shorter with consular processing (assuming that the EB-1 will
    >> >> be approved).
    >> >>
    >> >> On the other hand, concurrent filing will give you a valid status earlier,
    >> >> and for many people that is more important than getting the GC approved
    >> >> early. Also, you can change jobs if the I-485 takes longer than six
    >> >> months. You can't do that with consular processing.
    >> >>
    >> >> If you think you qualify for EB-1 but aren't sure, you can do yet another
    >> >> approach: file an EB-1 and I-485 concurrently, and at the same time also
    >> >> file an LC for EB-2. If the EB-1 is denied and you are lucky, you might be
    >> >> able to simply substitute the EB-2.
    >> >>
    >> >> This is another option that works better with an I-485 than with consular
    >> >> filing.
    >> >>
    >> >> On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:03:43 -0800, Al wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> > Hi,
    >> >> >
    >> >> > A friend is asking which way to GC is faster:
    >> >> >
    >> >> > 1- concurrent filing of I-140 (EB-1) with the I-485
    >> >> > OR
    >> >> > 2- filing of I-140 (EB-1) with Consular Processing
    >> >> >
    >> >> > And WHY?
    >> >> >
    >> >> > Thanks,
    >> >> > Al
 
Old Mar 27th 2003, 10:06 pm
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Al
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How to understand what give us for March 2003
processing times for Vermont Service Center:

I-140 Immigrant Alien Worker E11 4/01/2002
I-140 Immigrant Alien Worker E12 4/03/2002
I-140 Immigrant Alien Worker E13 7/10/2002
I-140 Immigrant Alien Worker E21 (NIW: 4/5/2002) 7/27/2002
I-140 Immig A.Worker E31. E32 EW3 (Nurses:current) 7/01/2002

Please tell me where "Outstanding Researcher" and "Extraordinary
Alien" and "Self-Sponsor EB-1" would fit in this table!

And looking the time at this:
I-485 Application to Register to Adjust Status 11/15/2001
I would think that for a British researcher who has no partner and
does not need an advanced parole to enter the US it would be much
faster getting the GC if he does go for I-140 & Consular Processing,
right???
Thanks,
Al

"Ingo Pakleppa" wrote in message news:...
    > There is no general answer beyond "sometimes a month is enough, and
    > a year or two are almost always safe". It depends on a number of factors,
    > such as, how long you have worked for that employer before.
    >
    > On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 20:45:56 -0800, Andrew wrote:
    >
    > > In the case of consular processing, what is considered an appropriate
    > > period after receiving the green card (i.e. after getting your passport
    > > stamped at the consulate) before a change of employer is ok ?
    > >
    > > In article ,
    > > "Ingo Pakleppa" wrote:
    > >
    > >> He could change jobs as soon as the I-140 is approved. In addition to the
    > >> six-month requirement, there is another requirement that he have an
    > >> approved petition.
    > >>
    > >> There is yet another possibility: if he clearly qualifies for an EB-1, he
    > >> may be able to self-sponsor and forego the requirement to have a job
    > >> offer. Consult a competent immigration attorney.
    > >>
    > >> On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 06:51:56 -0800, Al wrote:
    > >>
    > >> > My friend has a British passport, a PhD + 35 publications in R&D. So,
    > >> > EB-1 would not be a problem but he wants to change his job ASAP. In
    > >> > case, his attorney files I-140/485 and say his I-140 takes 9 months to
    > >> > be approved, does it mean he could change work immediately because his
    > >> > I-485 took already more than 6 months? Please clarify!
    > >> > Thanks,
    > >> > Al
    > >> >
    > >> > "Ingo Pakleppa" wrote in message
    > >> > news:...
    > >> >> It depends on what you mean by "faster". The total time to a GC will
    > >> >> probably be shorter with consular processing (assuming that the EB-1 will
    > >> >> be approved).
    > >> >>
    > >> >> On the other hand, concurrent filing will give you a valid status earlier,
    > >> >> and for many people that is more important than getting the GC approved
    > >> >> early. Also, you can change jobs if the I-485 takes longer than six
    > >> >> months. You can't do that with consular processing.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> If you think you qualify for EB-1 but aren't sure, you can do yet another
    > >> >> approach: file an EB-1 and I-485 concurrently, and at the same time also
    > >> >> file an LC for EB-2. If the EB-1 is denied and you are lucky, you might be
    > >> >> able to simply substitute the EB-2.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> This is another option that works better with an I-485 than with consular
    > >> >> filing.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:03:43 -0800, Al wrote:
    > >> >>
    > >> >> > Hi,
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> > A friend is asking which way to GC is faster:
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> > 1- concurrent filing of I-140 (EB-1) with the I-485
    > >> >> > OR
    > >> >> > 2- filing of I-140 (EB-1) with Consular Processing
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> > And WHY?
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> > Thanks,
    > >> >> > Al
    > >>
 
Old Mar 28th 2003, 3:58 am
  #9  
Ingo Pakleppa
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I have to admit that I'm not familiar with the coding scheme E11, E12 and
E13 are outstanding researcher, extraordinary alien and international
manager or executive, respectively. I don't know which is which, though.
Self-sponsor doesn't show up because that is just a particular procedure,
not a category in its own right.

On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 15:06:49 -0800, Al wrote:

    > How to understand what give us for March 2003
    > processing times for Vermont Service Center:
    >
    > I-140 Immigrant Alien Worker E11 4/01/2002
    > I-140 Immigrant Alien Worker E12 4/03/2002
    > I-140 Immigrant Alien Worker E13 7/10/2002
    > I-140 Immigrant Alien Worker E21 (NIW: 4/5/2002) 7/27/2002
    > I-140 Immig A.Worker E31. E32 EW3 (Nurses:current) 7/01/2002
    >
    > Please tell me where "Outstanding Researcher" and "Extraordinary
    > Alien" and "Self-Sponsor EB-1" would fit in this table!
    >
    > And looking the time at this:
    > I-485 Application to Register to Adjust Status 11/15/2001
    > I would think that for a British researcher who has no partner and
    > does not need an advanced parole to enter the US it would be much
    > faster getting the GC if he does go for I-140 & Consular Processing,
    > right???
    > Thanks,
    > Al
    >
    > "Ingo Pakleppa" wrote in message news:...
    >> There is no general answer beyond "sometimes a month is enough, and
    >> a year or two are almost always safe". It depends on a number of factors,
    >> such as, how long you have worked for that employer before.
    >>
    >> On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 20:45:56 -0800, Andrew wrote:
    >>
    >> > In the case of consular processing, what is considered an appropriate
    >> > period after receiving the green card (i.e. after getting your passport
    >> > stamped at the consulate) before a change of employer is ok ?
    >> >
    >> > In article ,
    >> > "Ingo Pakleppa" wrote:
    >> >
    >> >> He could change jobs as soon as the I-140 is approved. In addition to the
    >> >> six-month requirement, there is another requirement that he have an
    >> >> approved petition.
    >> >>
    >> >> There is yet another possibility: if he clearly qualifies for an EB-1, he
    >> >> may be able to self-sponsor and forego the requirement to have a job
    >> >> offer. Consult a competent immigration attorney.
    >> >>
    >> >> On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 06:51:56 -0800, Al wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> > My friend has a British passport, a PhD + 35 publications in R&D. So,
    >> >> > EB-1 would not be a problem but he wants to change his job ASAP. In
    >> >> > case, his attorney files I-140/485 and say his I-140 takes 9 months to
    >> >> > be approved, does it mean he could change work immediately because his
    >> >> > I-485 took already more than 6 months? Please clarify!
    >> >> > Thanks,
    >> >> > Al
    >> >> >
    >> >> > "Ingo Pakleppa" wrote in message
    >> >> > news:...
    >> >> >> It depends on what you mean by "faster". The total time to a GC will
    >> >> >> probably be shorter with consular processing (assuming that the EB-1 will
    >> >> >> be approved).
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> On the other hand, concurrent filing will give you a valid status earlier,
    >> >> >> and for many people that is more important than getting the GC approved
    >> >> >> early. Also, you can change jobs if the I-485 takes longer than six
    >> >> >> months. You can't do that with consular processing.
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> If you think you qualify for EB-1 but aren't sure, you can do yet another
    >> >> >> approach: file an EB-1 and I-485 concurrently, and at the same time also
    >> >> >> file an LC for EB-2. If the EB-1 is denied and you are lucky, you might be
    >> >> >> able to simply substitute the EB-2.
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> This is another option that works better with an I-485 than with consular
    >> >> >> filing.
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:03:43 -0800, Al wrote:
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> > Hi,
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> > A friend is asking which way to GC is faster:
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> > 1- concurrent filing of I-140 (EB-1) with the I-485
    >> >> >> > OR
    >> >> >> > 2- filing of I-140 (EB-1) with Consular Processing
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> > And WHY?
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> > Thanks,
    >> >> >> > Al
    >> >>
 
Old Mar 31st 2003, 2:17 am
  #10  
Al
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Looking the time for I-485 at :

I-485 Application to Register to Adjust Status 11/15/2001

I would think that for a British researcher who has no wife that would
need an EAD and who does not need an advanced parole to enter the US
it would be much
faster getting the GC if he does go for I-140(EB-1) & Consular
Processing. BUT if he wants to change job ASAP, so he has to go for
the concurrent filing, right???
Thanks,
Al



"Ingo Pakleppa" wrote in message news:...
    > I have to admit that I'm not familiar with the coding scheme E11, E12 and
    > E13 are outstanding researcher, extraordinary alien and international
    > manager or executive, respectively. I don't know which is which, though.
    > Self-sponsor doesn't show up because that is just a particular procedure,
    > not a category in its own right.
    >
    > On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 15:06:49 -0800, Al wrote:
    >
    > > How to understand what give us for March 2003
    > > processing times for Vermont Service Center:
    > >
    > > I-140 Immigrant Alien Worker E11 4/01/2002
    > > I-140 Immigrant Alien Worker E12 4/03/2002
    > > I-140 Immigrant Alien Worker E13 7/10/2002
    > > I-140 Immigrant Alien Worker E21 (NIW: 4/5/2002) 7/27/2002
    > > I-140 Immig A.Worker E31. E32 EW3 (Nurses:current) 7/01/2002
    > >
    > > Please tell me where "Outstanding Researcher" and "Extraordinary
    > > Alien" and "Self-Sponsor EB-1" would fit in this table!
    > >
    > > And looking the time at this:
    > > I-485 Application to Register to Adjust Status 11/15/2001
    > > I would think that for a British researcher who has no partner and
    > > does not need an advanced parole to enter the US it would be much
    > > faster getting the GC if he does go for I-140 & Consular Processing,
    > > right???
    > > Thanks,
    > > Al
    > >
    > > "Ingo Pakleppa" wrote in message news:...
    > >> There is no general answer beyond "sometimes a month is enough, and
    > >> a year or two are almost always safe". It depends on a number of factors,
    > >> such as, how long you have worked for that employer before.
    > >>
    > >> On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 20:45:56 -0800, Andrew wrote:
    > >>
    > >> > In the case of consular processing, what is considered an appropriate
    > >> > period after receiving the green card (i.e. after getting your passport
    > >> > stamped at the consulate) before a change of employer is ok ?
    > >> >
    > >> > In article ,
    > >> > "Ingo Pakleppa" wrote:
    > >> >
    > >> >> He could change jobs as soon as the I-140 is approved. In addition to the
    > >> >> six-month requirement, there is another requirement that he have an
    > >> >> approved petition.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> There is yet another possibility: if he clearly qualifies for an EB-1, he
    > >> >> may be able to self-sponsor and forego the requirement to have a job
    > >> >> offer. Consult a competent immigration attorney.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 06:51:56 -0800, Al wrote:
    > >> >>
    > >> >> > My friend has a British passport, a PhD + 35 publications in R&D. So,
    > >> >> > EB-1 would not be a problem but he wants to change his job ASAP. In
    > >> >> > case, his attorney files I-140/485 and say his I-140 takes 9 months to
    > >> >> > be approved, does it mean he could change work immediately because his
    > >> >> > I-485 took already more than 6 months? Please clarify!
    > >> >> > Thanks,
    > >> >> > Al
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> > "Ingo Pakleppa" wrote in message
    > >> >> > news:...
    > >> >> >> It depends on what you mean by "faster". The total time to a GC will
    > >> >> >> probably be shorter with consular processing (assuming that the EB-1 will
    > >> >> >> be approved).
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> On the other hand, concurrent filing will give you a valid status earlier,
    > >> >> >> and for many people that is more important than getting the GC approved
    > >> >> >> early. Also, you can change jobs if the I-485 takes longer than six
    > >> >> >> months. You can't do that with consular processing.
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> If you think you qualify for EB-1 but aren't sure, you can do yet another
    > >> >> >> approach: file an EB-1 and I-485 concurrently, and at the same time also
    > >> >> >> file an LC for EB-2. If the EB-1 is denied and you are lucky, you might be
    > >> >> >> able to simply substitute the EB-2.
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> This is another option that works better with an I-485 than with consular
    > >> >> >> filing.
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:03:43 -0800, Al wrote:
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> > Hi,
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> > A friend is asking which way to GC is faster:
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> > 1- concurrent filing of I-140 (EB-1) with the I-485
    > >> >> >> > OR
    > >> >> >> > 2- filing of I-140 (EB-1) with Consular Processing
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> > And WHY?
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> > Thanks,
    > >> >> >> > Al
    > >> >>
 

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