B2 visa following ESTA overstay
#31
Re: B2 visa following ESTA overstay
From what I understand it's a waiver, he told me this when he gave it to me.
#32
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Re: B2 visa following ESTA overstay
The Form I-134 wouldn't help for a B-2. That thing is barely enforceable for immigrants, let alone nonimmigrants.
#33
Re: B2 visa following ESTA overstay
I overstayed in the summer (June 4 - Sept 6).
I returned to the US on Sept 30th, assuming to be allowed back under the VWP. They took me to immigration and told me that I'd overstayed and thus my ESTA application was invalid, but after explaining my reasons for travel and my ability to support myself (online job), the officer gave me the 90 day waiver and allowed me entry.
(Really wish I hadn't left, tbh, and we'd got married over there).
I returned to the US on Sept 30th, assuming to be allowed back under the VWP. They took me to immigration and told me that I'd overstayed and thus my ESTA application was invalid, but after explaining my reasons for travel and my ability to support myself (online job), the officer gave me the 90 day waiver and allowed me entry.
(Really wish I hadn't left, tbh, and we'd got married over there).
Go with the CR1 or K1 route (depending on where you marry). You made a mistake and that'll mean some time apart. But it's not the end of the world.
#35
Re: B2 visa following ESTA overstay
Agreed.
Perfectly acceptable to be honest about the grief is caused though, right?
Maybe even advisable. Deters others from the same mistake.
Perfectly acceptable to be honest about the grief is caused though, right?
Maybe even advisable. Deters others from the same mistake.
#36
Re: B2 visa following ESTA overstay
I don't quite understand why you're even looking at getting a B2 to visit the USA right now. You are obviously ready to marry and immigrate to the USA...you don't actually want to go as a visitor anymore. The B2 will be difficult to get, but you can try...all you lose is the filing fee. You can't use the VWP anymore anyway because of the overstay. So...if you REALLY want to visit (or go to the USA in order to marry her so you can start the CR-1 Immigrant Visa process), then try for a B2. Just go into it knowing the odds are against you....you're not retired, you have a USC girlfriend that you intend to marry, you overstayed previously, you have an online job that can be done anywhere in the world. You'll need to bring proof that you do NOT intend to immigrate to the USA by way of your B2 visa...which means showing ties to the UK. You need proof that you MUST be back in the UK by a certain date (in the not-to-distant future!).
Then, if or when the B2 is denied, your choices are more clear. Either she gets the appropriate visa to come to the UK to marry you, and you do the CR-1 Immigrant Visa after that, or you just do a K-1 fiance visa to the USA right now.
She can visit you in the UK while either visa process is going on.
Yes, it sucks to have to spend some time apart, but it's not the end of the world. My fiance and I spent 14 months apart while waiting for his K-1 visa to process. That was back in 2003, and we survived. Your process should only take around 6 - 10 months (depending on whether you go with Immigrant Visa or K-1), so in my opinion, not a long separation at all, especially if she can come visit you while waiting.
Rene
#37
Re: B2 visa following ESTA overstay
Mav,
I don't quite understand why you're even looking at getting a B2 to visit the USA right now. You are obviously ready to marry and immigrate to the USA...you don't actually want to go as a visitor anymore. The B2 will be difficult to get, but you can try...all you lose is the filing fee. You can't use the VWP anymore anyway because of the overstay. So...if you REALLY want to visit (or go to the USA in order to marry her so you can start the CR-1 Immigrant Visa process), then try for a B2. Just go into it knowing the odds are against you....you're not retired, you have a USC girlfriend that you intend to marry, you overstayed previously, you have an online job that can be done anywhere in the world. You'll need to bring proof that you do NOT intend to immigrate to the USA by way of your B2 visa...which means showing ties to the UK. You need proof that you MUST be back in the UK by a certain date (in the not-to-distant future!).
Then, if or when the B2 is denied, your choices are more clear. Either she gets the appropriate visa to come to the UK to marry you, and you do the CR-1 Immigrant Visa after that, or you just do a K-1 fiance visa to the USA right now.
She can visit you in the UK while either visa process is going on.
Yes, it sucks to have to spend some time apart, but it's not the end of the world. My fiance and I spent 14 months apart while waiting for his K-1 visa to process. That was back in 2003, and we survived. Your process should only take around 6 - 10 months (depending on whether you go with Immigrant Visa or K-1), so in my opinion, not a long separation at all, especially if she can come visit you while waiting.
Rene
I don't quite understand why you're even looking at getting a B2 to visit the USA right now. You are obviously ready to marry and immigrate to the USA...you don't actually want to go as a visitor anymore. The B2 will be difficult to get, but you can try...all you lose is the filing fee. You can't use the VWP anymore anyway because of the overstay. So...if you REALLY want to visit (or go to the USA in order to marry her so you can start the CR-1 Immigrant Visa process), then try for a B2. Just go into it knowing the odds are against you....you're not retired, you have a USC girlfriend that you intend to marry, you overstayed previously, you have an online job that can be done anywhere in the world. You'll need to bring proof that you do NOT intend to immigrate to the USA by way of your B2 visa...which means showing ties to the UK. You need proof that you MUST be back in the UK by a certain date (in the not-to-distant future!).
Then, if or when the B2 is denied, your choices are more clear. Either she gets the appropriate visa to come to the UK to marry you, and you do the CR-1 Immigrant Visa after that, or you just do a K-1 fiance visa to the USA right now.
She can visit you in the UK while either visa process is going on.
Yes, it sucks to have to spend some time apart, but it's not the end of the world. My fiance and I spent 14 months apart while waiting for his K-1 visa to process. That was back in 2003, and we survived. Your process should only take around 6 - 10 months (depending on whether you go with Immigrant Visa or K-1), so in my opinion, not a long separation at all, especially if she can come visit you while waiting.
Rene
As I understand, the K-1 is quite a bit more expensive (an extra $1,000 AOS fee, if my comprehension skills serve me well?) compared with the CR1, and more or less the same time frame, unless you're unable to marry in the near future.
I think what we'll do is have her visit me in January on a fiance visa (or on a visitor's, and go to Jersey), marry, and then put in for an I-130, hopefully ushering me into permanent residence status in time for the summer and her graduation.
Please do pick holes in that if there are any.
Just as an aside - and I doubt I'll do this - would they be likely to grant me a B2 for a week or so if I declared my intention was to come over to get married? Or I wonder if this would hinder things further.
And 14 months! Well that certainly puts our situation into perspective. Glad it worked out for you both. Did Skype even exist in 2003?
Thanks again.
#38
Re: B2 visa following ESTA overstay
I think what we'll do is have her visit me in January on a fiance visa (or on a visitor's, and go to Jersey), marry, and then put in for an I-130, hopefully ushering me into permanent residence status in time for the summer and her graduation.
I don't think it's a good idea for her to come to the UK as a visitor and then try to find a way to get married...I imagine it takes longer that way, you need to wait for certain approvals, etc. If she knows she's coming with the intent to marry, just get the proper visa from the start, and save time.
Just as an aside - and I doubt I'll do this - would they be likely to grant me a B2 for a week or so if I declared my intention was to come over to get married? Or I wonder if this would hinder things further.
And 14 months! Well that certainly puts our situation into perspective. Glad it worked out for you both. Did Skype even exist in 2003?
Rene
#39
Re: B2 visa following ESTA overstay
Here is a comparison chart of the two visas: http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Compar...ge-based_visas
If you have any further questions about those, you should post them in the US Marriage Based Visa forum: http://britishexpats.com/forum/forum...f=35&styleid=6
Rene
If you have any further questions about those, you should post them in the US Marriage Based Visa forum: http://britishexpats.com/forum/forum...f=35&styleid=6
Rene
#40
Re: B2 visa following ESTA overstay
Will do, and thanks again.
Quite an eye-opening few hours - had to learn some harsh truths, but feel ready to roll my sleeves up now and get the official process underway
Quite an eye-opening few hours - had to learn some harsh truths, but feel ready to roll my sleeves up now and get the official process underway
#41
Re: B2 visa following ESTA overstay
You should carefully recalculate that assumption about the $1000.
I think what we'll do is have her visit me in January on a fiance visa (or on a visitor's, and go to Jersey), marry, and then put in for an I-130, hopefully ushering me into permanent residence status in time for the summer and her graduation.
Please do pick holes in that if there are any.
Please do pick holes in that if there are any.
Just as an aside - and I doubt I'll do this - would they be likely to grant me a B2 for a week or so if I declared my intention was to come over to get married? Or I wonder if this would hinder things further.
You can return to the US with a K or immigrant visa.