Grayling

So am I

glennmatchett

I have to agree with the last post it has taken a nasty turn it is a shame, as for personal gripes I have no gripes but if I am to be called a hypocrite I have a right to stand up for myself, in reference to soulrebel but if your going to jump on board Grayling then you have to know I will stand my ground.


I am no longer going to contribute to this thread. It is going nowhere and has gone off the original topic.

SpookyET

IT being 10 years behind. What a load of bollocks! It's the same in the USA. High schools upgrade computers every 10 years, it seems. Universities upgrade every 5 years, and even then, they are low end, good for web surfing computers running XP.

Unless you are in the creative industry, where you make video, audio, graphics, web design, or create games for a living, you don't need the latest screamer to run your payroll accounting. Hell, the space shuttle runs on a pocket calculator and goes to space. A 1999 pc can still surf the web.

Olibeneli

If all you want to do is surf the web tells me a lot.

A mate of mine looks after ALL the PCs in TAFE across NSW...I mean all of them.........that must be in the 10's of thousands. He builds servers remotely that are located hundres of miles away so that they will load certain software on to all the PCs in a clasroom depending on what lesson is in class that day.........imagine that when classes change, software changes. He tells me point blank the machines can't cope.

You don't need the latest scraemer to run payroll accounting eh ?..........what if you want payroll linked to costing linked to HR and run 7 different payrolls each month ?...weekly, fortnightly, monthly, cash, 4 weekly, etc etc........give me a break.

What space shuttle are you on about ?. I have been around Cape Canaveral AND the astronauts training base and if you are right how come NASA spend so much money on a pocket calculator ? The tax payer should be enlightened to your better knowledge me thinks?

SpookyET

You still don't need a gaming rig to run that stuff. A circa 2001 computer should be capable. How did you do it back in 2001? I bet they had the same protocol.

Yes, the space shuttle main computers are from the 70s and 80s. Google, if you don't believe me, or if you are curious. Do you think that they upgrade military or civilian hardware every time Intel release a new chip? Even if they had a need, they can't because those electronics were specifically designed to withstand radiation and extreme temperatures in space. Your $250 Intel cpu costs them $50,000. It's very old and expensive equipment. My sterility device isn't capable to support a few videos before it shuts down due to heat. I believe that the NASA budget is 500 million. A space launch costs $5 million. The space station costs $100 million. They do a lot of research and give money to universities for research. They don't spend money to upgrade the computers every 3 years. They have servers that run Fedora 4. They have servers that run really old unix.

Pollyana

Actually, BE recommends that people use anonymous usernames.

There are many reasons for not putting one's personal details on a worldwide forum - protection of the privacy of one's family being just one.
In addition, being a forum widely browsed by immigration services of various countries, including Australia and the USA, it can be detrimental to your case to be posting under your real name. Assumptions about medicalk issues is one which often comes up - someone posts that they believe they have a very serious condition, it turns out to be a short-lived virus - by then a DIAC case officer has read it and noted it on the file. Don't scoff, it has happened. More than once agents have contacted me and asked me to gently suggest that someone removes their post, or changes their username, in the interests of their dealings with the immigration service.

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Now could you all cut out the squabbling please.

Nu-Shooz

Why does it bother you so much that someone prefers to live in the UK?

You need to get a grip and get over it ,..jeez!

BadgeIsBack

The thing about SAP is that is it quite, or was, fairly niche, and yes, NSW country probably would not want an all singing - all dancing system. And, I'd possibly want to keep current with something like that. People with certain skillsets or even, political motivations do seem to want to move on over here. So I don't knock Obiwan something or other.

IT varies in other areas - I personally would not say that Australia is 10 years behind in my field.

I like working in IT in Australia : doesn't pay a starship salary but then I don't want starship stresses. I find the major difference is that here managers seem to want you to have a work-life balance and that comes first. In that respect, I enjoy it here.

kevinl

Hey Kev,
was wondering where you've been hiding!!
Sorry things haven't worked out, but know exactly how you feel. We've been home a year now and I can honestly say, hand on heart, we have done the right thing, no regrets.
So when are you coming back, any dates yet? If you need anything give us a shout.
Love to S and the boys,
Deb xxx

coxfamuk

Hi there

I would be very interested to see how Brisbane works out for you. We are in Melbourne and I am not very happy here (OH loves it but that is because he has a fantastic job - better than the one he had in the UK). I like Melbourne as a city and have really enjoyed exploring Victoria, but I find the people here not very friendly or welcoming at all. I have been wondering if a move to a different part of the country is perhaps a better option than the very radical move of going back to the UK.

Good luck with it all.

Sarah

quoll

To the OP - all the very best on your move back to UK, I am sure it will be all that you hope it will be. I could but wish that my DH, acknowledging my unhappiness here, would be as magnanimous and take me home (my mum says that he told her on our wedding day that if I was unhappy he would bring me home - shame there dont seem to have been any independent witnesses because it seems to have conveniently slipped his mind, but 35 years will do that to you)

I think you have given it a good go and have excellent reasons for why it hasnt worked for you - definitely a good update and quite the right place to post it!

kriskrock

Good luck !
your comments are so true, we have been here 1 year and 6 days - yes i am counting - i came here having spent 8 years living in the USA (New York and Washington DC). I have experienced first hand the poor quality that exists within the business community. I want to leave - my wife who does not work, wants to give it another year ! She says we need to stick it out !!! for the kids sake - so the grind continues - worst part is i cant change jobs as my Visa is tied to my employer !!

What even happened to Paradise!

CaptainMerton

ha ha i love it when people say that.

Olibeneli

Hello again everyone.

I got back to the UK via Virgin dead on time on Sat 16th...started work Monday 18th having secured a new role from Australia.

The day I landed was pretty good weather, but since then it's grey and raining in showers.....am I bothered ?.....NO.

It's funny but I feel that I haven't been away that long even though I was in Oz for 2 1/2 years. The sight of footpaths and people walking around is really nice as is the variety of shops in little towns and villages...very pleasant.

Now.....my work which was so important to me. I now work at a consulting automotive engineering firm as head of finance systems (which I have been recruited to replace). The firm is so cutting edge it's untrue. My employer makes, among other things, the Bugatti Veyron gearbox and I just saw it today. It is an immense piece of british engineering and makes anyone feel proud. They also do high performance transmissions for Porsche, F1 teams and Le Mans teams. Mention a V8 supercar here and they laugh a bit. Hardly high tech apparently.

Anyway........I had a conversation today with some finance people and we talked about embedded derivatives. I simply can't see any business in the area I lived in in Australia having a clue what that would be about.

It's certainly refreshing to be (a) among some of the worlds best engineers in automotive design and (b) among a number of accountants that are also pushing changes and improvements through using better and better technology and (c) among some very experienced and savvy IT people. Our intranet is marvellous and the use of IT far better than anything I came across or discussed in Aus.

Accountants for those that don't know, do a lot more than just add numbers up and post a debit and credit and make a P&L account.......which is exactly the impression I got from those I dealt with in the Illawarra. Mention a MOLAP database or order to cash process or mobile sales and I got zero understanding what those topics mean because the business were too small or too 'behind' to understand. (I was interviewed at Qantas....so not in Illawarra..... who did know what OLAP was about but did not totally understand some of what I asked them about their set up.........methinks they are struggling big time)

Anyway....so far so good but as yet it's early days. One thing I just found out is the test car I have been given changed my perception of Skodas. I could have had a BMW but was told to try the Skoda. It's a 1.9 litre turbo diesel and absolutely flies. I drove from Brighton to Birmingham in roughly 2 hours, used hardly any fuel (I have yet to measure consumption) and blitzed past every car that I came across including Audi Q7 who wanted a race, a Porsche Boxster, Porsche Carrera, VW GTI and more besides.

Now Skoda is owned by VW the build quality is very good but my word the performance is amazing.

Anyway, I'll let you know how I go through weeks of rain but so far no bad news.

Enjoy the sun...........PS How many medals are team GB ahead of Australia ? Please rub it in for me!

Olibeneli

Thanks for your words. My other half was unhappy...took me a while to come round but we had to come back. You get one shot at life......don't make it an unhappy one.