Why Americans don't like Obamacare
#213
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Re: Why Americans don't like Obamacare
I strongly disagree, Charteuse! Schools should be a place of safety, well as safe as can be expected. The thought of anyone walking around a school with a concealed weapon, whether it be staff, parent or child is just crazy.
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Re: Why Americans don't like Obamacare
Perhaps, as you say, it's a sign of sever mental illness and folks who hold that view should be locked away without due process. Or weren't y'all saying that wouldn't happen? Didn't take long, did it?
That's OK. It's a free country, we're allowed to disagree with each other.
But since folks are, apparently, worried that there's all these psychos running around murdering everyone, surely an armed teacher or two would make the school more safe, rather than less?
But since folks are, apparently, worried that there's all these psychos running around murdering everyone, surely an armed teacher or two would make the school more safe, rather than less?
#215
Re: Why Americans don't like Obamacare
It is not the "right" of any individual to bear arms.......
#216
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Re: Why Americans don't like Obamacare
You seriously think I'm advocating an end to the war on drugs because it will be a 'convenience' for me? Are you suggesting that I am a drug-user (or seller?) who would personally benefit from such a change?! I'm over 50 years old and haven't seriously contemplated using illegal drugs for decades. I had a wonderful time at University, indulging in every manner of mind-altering substance, but at this point I struggle to finish a second beer. Prescription pain-killers are perhaps my closest foray into 'drugs' at this point. And if I wanted to indulge in illegal drugs, I have enough friends with contacts that it makes no difference to me whether they are illegal or not. I'm opposed to the 'war on drugs' because it causes our jails, our courts, our probation systems, etc to be filled with people who don't really belong there and who displace 'real' criminals who should be in that system. It gives purpose to an entire underworld of 'serious' drug cartels, with all the attendant problems they cause (look at Mexico, Columbia...). Further, de-criminalizing drugs will open a much-needed source of revenue. This is a very serious topic and has nothing whatsoever to do with 'convenience' for me.
Unlike you, though, I don't believe that every politician is inherently evil and every politician's action is motivated by greed.
Why do you always have to revert to attacking the motives, or the mental ability, of a poster? It should not matter what a poster's motives are - either their argument is valid, or it is not, and you should address the 'content and substance' of the argument, rather than attempt to diminish the argument because of the poster's motivations. You frequently adopt a superior attitude in your posts, dismissing those who disagree with you based on your perceived superior intellect or moral position.
Unlike you, though, I don't believe that every politician is inherently evil and every politician's action is motivated by greed.
Why do you always have to revert to attacking the motives, or the mental ability, of a poster? It should not matter what a poster's motives are - either their argument is valid, or it is not, and you should address the 'content and substance' of the argument, rather than attempt to diminish the argument because of the poster's motivations. You frequently adopt a superior attitude in your posts, dismissing those who disagree with you based on your perceived superior intellect or moral position.
#217
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Re: Why Americans don't like Obamacare
Perhaps, as you say, it's a sign of sever mental illness and folks who hold that view should be locked away without due process. Or weren't y'all saying that wouldn't happen? Didn't take long, did it?
That's OK. It's a free country, we're allowed to disagree with each other.
But since folks are, apparently, worried that there's all these psychos running around murdering everyone, surely an armed teacher or two would make the school more safe, rather than less?
That's OK. It's a free country, we're allowed to disagree with each other.
But since folks are, apparently, worried that there's all these psychos running around murdering everyone, surely an armed teacher or two would make the school more safe, rather than less?
Seriously, I'm not a gun fan, and never have been. It saddens me to know that some people think its necessary to own one. But that's their life, not mine. However, I draw the line at even thinking that guns belong in schools. In fact that is so far removed from a rational thought that it doesn't bear discussion. I'm going to go with the thought that you're pulling our legs.
#219
Re: Why Americans don't like Obamacare
It's just like the whole idea of guns for personal protection, generally, it's a bit of a myth ain't it.
Like the article said above, person didn't know who was good/bad, didn't want to get mistook, didn't want to make matters worse. There are plenty of people who are not that level headed and would have made a bad situation worse.
That does not mean I don't think people should be allowed guns, but don't go pretending it's for the better of society and safety to have one, certainly in carrying one around in every day life.
Cops, pimps, hookers and dealers are about the only folks who can probably honestly say having a gun will make them more safer.
The rest, they have guns just because they want them and are allowed. That's a perfectly fine reason in itself. Why dress it up?
#220
Re: Why Americans don't like Obamacare
Healthcare... perhaps, but I'll give it 10-20 years before deciding if it's been an historic change.
Bringing troops home? I don't think any leader has ever gone down in the history books for bringing troops home from wars without a decisive victory.
Being black? He will most certainly be in the history books for that, and I think it's a great thing for America... but it neither adds nor detracts from his political achievements.
Bringing troops home? I don't think any leader has ever gone down in the history books for bringing troops home from wars without a decisive victory.
Being black? He will most certainly be in the history books for that, and I think it's a great thing for America... but it neither adds nor detracts from his political achievements.
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Re: Why Americans don't like Obamacare