Toddlers
#46
Re: Toddlers
I agree, ones that don't involve impact are eminently survivable these days, but assuming the plane goes out of control at a low enough altitude that decompression doesn't cause everyone to black out, then a dive from even 100ft could easily be fatal and/or cause a catastrophic fire. .... And if your head is down, "braced for impact" you will likely break your neck.
#47
Re: Toddlers
Thanks for the info. When she was under 2, we opted to take her as a lap child, and it was still allowed. We considered the same concerns you outlined, but decided not to purchase a seat because (a) it is very expensive (b) she wouldn't sit in it for much of the flight and (c) during a catastrophic accident most people do not survive anyway. I completely understand that lots of people may decide differently, but suffice to say we thought long and hard about it and were not simply cavalier about it. Also, if you do get a seat with a bassinet, they are not allowed to be in the bassinet during takeoff and landing. I liked that the bassinet had straps that went over the top to prevent falling out during turbulence. It was also interesting that on the non-US airlines we flew, they provided seatbelt extensions that she had to wear during take off and landing sitting on our laps. Those were never provided or required on any US airlines we flew.
In any event, the whole point is now moot, bc she is way over 2 and legally needs her own seat now 😄
In any event, the whole point is now moot, bc she is way over 2 and legally needs her own seat now 😄
#48
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Re: Toddlers
We bought the diono seat which is FAA approved and folds in half. The other advantage is that you can fit 3 seats across most cars.It fits children up to about age 12 ish. not all car seats are FAA approved. The other advantage of taking your own car seat is that you can use it in the rental car if you are getting one. You don't know the history of the ones you get from rental companies.
#49
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I agree, ones that don't involve impact are eminently survivable these days, but assuming the plane goes out of control at a low enough altitude that decompression doesn't cause everyone to black out, then a dive from even 100ft could easily be fatal and/or cause a catastrophic fire. .... And if your head is down, "braced for impact" you will likely break your neck.
Completely busted by mythbusters for a start.
Also investigated extensively after the keg worth aircrash in the UK. Where a lot of people ended up with broken legs due to their legs whipping forward.
The brace position is designed to protect your head from impact and your limbs from whipping forward.
I'll post some links when I'm at home and not on my phone
#50
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Isn't the brace position just to stop your head from flinging forward and smashing into the seat in front?
#52
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I am not saying that sitting up is better, just that you're §çrëwed either way of the plane slams into the ground.
Last edited by Pulaski; Jul 12th 2016 at 6:15 am.
#53
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i am guessing the stall speed of a 777 is about 100 knots as the approach speed is normally 1.3 times Vso. This is an interesting table
http://www.boeing.com/assets/pdf/com...oachspeeds.pdf
http://www.boeing.com/assets/pdf/com...oachspeeds.pdf
#54
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This looks like a neat alternative to carrying a car seat onto a plane
RideSafer Travel Vest | Safer Travel Car Seat, Fit 3 Across...
RideSafer Travel Vest | Safer Travel Car Seat, Fit 3 Across...
#55
Re: Toddlers
Back on topic, my 20 month old is picking up words now. Her latest, taught by my wife, is fartsen. Now when she lets go of a gust, she looks at you and goes I fartsen. That's my girl. Cracks me up overtime. Occasionally she tell you I poo poo, although generally, we don't need to be told to know LOL.
#56
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I heard it was help protect the teeth to aid identification if required. Probably not true. It is true that the vast majority of plane crashes are survivable though. I was present at the 777 crash at Heathrow 8 or so years ago. I don't have the pics anymore, but plenty online. Lost power about 500 feet, the plane dropped into the undershoot, one of the rear gear structures came up the through the floor into the cabin. The worst injury was a broken leg.
Back on topic, my 20 month old is picking up words now. Her latest, taught by my wife, is fartsen. Now when she lets go of a gust, she looks at you and goes I fartsen. That's my girl. Cracks me up overtime. Occasionally she tell you I poo poo, although generally, we don't need to be told to know LOL.
Back on topic, my 20 month old is picking up words now. Her latest, taught by my wife, is fartsen. Now when she lets go of a gust, she looks at you and goes I fartsen. That's my girl. Cracks me up overtime. Occasionally she tell you I poo poo, although generally, we don't need to be told to know LOL.
#57
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Re: Toddlers
Some years ago when our Norwegian granddaughters were visiting with their parents, I was unwittingly responsible for teaching the baby her first words in English. After changing her nappy I would say, as a wrap-up, "there we go!" And those were the words she mimicked, in a much stronger Australian accent than mine, every time I did my duty from then on. My wife and I still use the expression around the house, as a wrap-up.
#58
Re: Toddlers
There was a point when I was sitting around wondering when he was going to start talking. Now he won't shut up.
In other news, just discovered a daycare rule I wasn't aware of. Apparently if your child hits another child to the extent that they draw blood, they are sent home for the day.
In other news, just discovered a daycare rule I wasn't aware of. Apparently if your child hits another child to the extent that they draw blood, they are sent home for the day.
#59
Re: Toddlers
There was a point when I was sitting around wondering when he was going to start talking. Now he won't shut up.
In other news, just discovered a daycare rule I wasn't aware of. Apparently if your child hits another child to the extent that they draw blood, they are sent home for the day.
In other news, just discovered a daycare rule I wasn't aware of. Apparently if your child hits another child to the extent that they draw blood, they are sent home for the day.