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Default Tendency amongst young American women to employ Vocal Fry

The Kardashians, Britney Spears, Kesha, Paris Hilton and many other female celebs employ it. A study found 2/3rd of college girls talk this way. It's associated with Southern Califronia Valley Girl slang and intonation.

What is vocal fry? These links explain it better than I can:

..vocal fry – the creaky voice they often do at the end of sentences that makes them sound eternally bored, cool and relaxed, depending on the listener.
https://pursuit.unimelb.edu.au/artic...rise-listeners


Vocal fry is the lowest register (tone) of your voice characterized by its deep, creaky, breathy sound.When you speak, your vocal cords naturally close to create vibrations as air passes between them. Like a piano or guitar string, these vibrations produce sound (your voice). When you breathe, your vocal cords are relaxed and open to let air pass through freely, which doesn’t produce any sound.

When you use vocal fry, you relax your vocal cords but do not increase the amount of air you’re pushing past your vocal cords, which produces slower vibrations and ultimately results in the lower creaky sound.
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/heal...ining-my-voice

Skip to 0:45 seconds in to see an example of the Kardashians employing vocal fry

Vocal fry and Uptalk are quite amusing.
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I don't know if its proper vocal fry but is still an interesting 1982 news report on the OG valley girls, upper middle class San Fernando Valley teenagers.


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I think the train left the station, or the horse left the barn, on vocal fry, years ago. I don’t know about Kardashions, Kesha, or other “ celebrities.” I’ve never seen them, never heard them speak. But you just need to listen to younger women NPR reporters, commentators etc. Vocal fry is ubiquitous among the youngsters (under 35s?) and has been for several years. Fortunately, it doesn’t bother me. Unlike when they start their sentences with “So…” or “I mean …”

Here’s a piece about the “I mean” thing.
https://fantasyhandbook.wordpress.co...nough-already/

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Cool. I knew about uptalk (from back in the day) but I didn't really know "vocal fry". Will listen out for it.
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Default Re: Tendency amongst young American women to employ Vocal Fry

Further to my earlier post, here’s a really interesting article from NPR about radio voices, and how some younger reporters and commentators have in the past felt pressure to adapt their voices to traditional white, Midwest, middle class radio norms.

https://www.npr.org/sections/publice...eal-person-too

Anyway, this article has quite a long section devoted to vocal fry. Among the observations; people over the age of forty are annoyed by vocal fry, complain about it, and don’t find experts or commentators who employ vocal fry to be authoritative. People younger than forty aren’t bothered by it.
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Default Re: Tendency amongst young American women to employ Vocal Fry

Originally Posted by Shard View Post
Cool. I knew about uptalk (from back in the day) but I didn't really know "vocal fry". Will listen out for it.
Here's Connie Chung doing a segment on uptalk; of all the youtube videos giving examples of uptalk, I think Connie's exaggerated one is the best.

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Default Re: Tendency amongst young American women to employ Vocal Fry

Many young women here employ croaky voices with the upswing at the end of every sentence as though they ran out of air.
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Default Re: Tendency amongst young American women to employ Vocal Fry

Originally Posted by BEVS View Post
Many young women here employ croaky voices with the upswing at the end of every sentence as though they ran out of air.
Is this vocal fry and uptalk making inroads in the other Anglosphere countries?
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To me many young US females have high pitched nasal voices - even those not so young have them, whereas European voices tend to be of a much lower pitch and not so ear shattering.

.... and what's with the trend nowadays of screeching whenever you meet someone, no matter where you are? ...department store, restaurant, etc
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Default Re: Tendency amongst young American women to employ Vocal Fry

Originally Posted by SanDiegogirl View Post
To me many young US females have high pitched nasal voices - even those not so young have them, whereas European voices tend to be of a much lower pitch and not so ear shattering.

.... and what's with the trend nowadays of screeching whenever you meet someone, no matter where you are? ...department store, restaurant, etc
Hmm … nearly two years since I was in a restaurant or department store ..
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Hmm … nearly two years since I was in a restaurant or department store ..
A proper department store like Macy's or The Bay or such, I think its been about 10 years for me, but I have been to big box general retailers like Wal-Mart, but I can't remember the last sit down restaurant, maybe 2019 ish or 2018 ish.
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I think the train left the station, or the horse left the barn, on vocal fry, years ago. I don’t know about Kardashions, Kesha, or other “ celebrities.” I’ve never seen them, never heard them speak. But you just need to listen to younger women NPR reporters, commentators etc. Vocal fry is ubiquitous among the youngsters (under 35s?) and has been for several years. Fortunately, it doesn’t bother me. Unlike when they start their sentences with “So…” or “I mean …”

Here’s a piece about the “I mean” thing.
https://fantasyhandbook.wordpress.co...nough-already/
The latest annoying word for me and the OH is "look". We are noticing it a lot, with politicians and journalists starting a sentence with it.
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A proper department store like Macy's or The Bay or such, I think its been about 10 years for me, but I have been to big box general retailers like Wal-Mart, but I can't remember the last sit down restaurant, maybe 2019 ish or 2018 ish.
True. For me, a place only counts as a department store if you have to walk through the perfume and make-up department to get in, and if you have to take the elevator to get to haberdashery.
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The latest annoying word for me and the OH is "look". We are noticing it a lot, with politicians and journalists starting a sentence with it.
Annoying words: "like" , "honestly" , "literally"

When speaking, what's the deal with everyone starting a sentence with "honestly" ? Does this mean the person is only being honest when they start a stence with "honestly". This was not common in the 90s and early 2000s.
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Originally Posted by Boomhauer View Post
Is this vocal fry and uptalk making inroads in the other Anglosphere countries?

Honestly? I literally don't know. NZ is not , like , that Anglo in its ways. Look , try N American ?
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