Taking your gun to another state drama...
Apr 7th 2009, 9:55 am
#526
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Re: Taking your gun to another state drama...
Hi:
I lived through those riots. BTW, read your link all the way through -- 38 died.
I know I went armed during those four days -- I had a baseball bat in the car.
Reginald Denny was not attacked with firearms by Damien Williams and friends. Although it is interesting to note that Mr. Williams was saved by Bobby Green, an unarmed former Green Beret -- when he saw the riots breaking out, he voluntarily drove to the riot area without firearms.
BTW, I recall an article in the LA Times about the reaction in the LAPD stations when they heard about the percipitating event of the riots -- they cheered. Not, "oh boy, the crap is about to hit the fan, we should prepare." Fine, be happy that your colleagues beat the rap, but they should read the motto on the side of their cars: "To Serve and Protect."
BTW, George Holliday is Canadian and I am informed that he did not have legal status at the time of the beating.
I lived through those riots. BTW, read your link all the way through -- 38 died.
I know I went armed during those four days -- I had a baseball bat in the car.
Reginald Denny was not attacked with firearms by Damien Williams and friends. Although it is interesting to note that Mr. Williams was saved by Bobby Green, an unarmed former Green Beret -- when he saw the riots breaking out, he voluntarily drove to the riot area without firearms.
BTW, I recall an article in the LA Times about the reaction in the LAPD stations when they heard about the percipitating event of the riots -- they cheered. Not, "oh boy, the crap is about to hit the fan, we should prepare." Fine, be happy that your colleagues beat the rap, but they should read the motto on the side of their cars: "To Serve and Protect."
BTW, George Holliday is Canadian and I am informed that he did not have legal status at the time of the beating.
What I mean is, in the US, you can't go looking for a gun fight, and taking a gun to an area with a riot going on will probably fall under that.
Last edited by anotherlimey; Apr 7th 2009 at 10:34 am.
Apr 7th 2009, 10:03 am
#527
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Re: Taking your gun to another state drama...
ok motorbike time - mission ridge 4000 feet in 20 minutes
Don't shoot up the sheriff - he might not be gay !
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Apr 7th 2009, 2:22 pm
#528
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Re: Taking your gun to another state drama...
Let's assume the survey is flawed - let's assume, instead of 20 times more likely, it's only 10 times more likely. Heck, let's assume it's only TWO times more likely - even then - that means, for every single incident where a gun is used to good advantage, there are two 'bad outcomes'. Still makes owning a gun for 'protection' seem a bad option to me!
Almost 90% of those 20x 10x 2x were suicides - shooting yourself must hold more appeal then taking a drive off an overpass.
700,000 (if you believe the stats) crimes a year are prevented by armed civilians.
Apr 9th 2009, 2:23 am
#529
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Re: Taking your gun to another state drama...
Maybe this thread can be split or something. I'm interested in the outcome of the original incident with the person caught in New York with a prohibited firearm. I've lost interest in the back and forth between people who will never agree and merely keep restating their point of view.
Apr 9th 2009, 2:28 am
#530
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Re: Taking your gun to another state drama...
Maybe this thread can be split or something. I'm interested in the outcome of the original incident with the person caught in New York with a prohibited firearm. I've lost interest in the back and forth between people who will never agree and merely keep restating their point of view.
Apr 9th 2009, 2:34 am
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Re: Taking your gun to another state drama...
- and the debate is only just getting under way in the US with a new government and a pick up in the rate of massacres
90% of the posts will reiterate the polarised views in the thread, which for the most part separate along political lines, (Rush Limbaugh supporters versus the incoming pinkos), but at least it would let people vent the concerns which are on their minds
Apr 9th 2009, 2:38 am
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Apr 9th 2009, 2:42 am
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Re: Taking your gun to another state drama...
Of course if that crazed woman Senator in michigan (Bachman) gets her way, there wont be debate - just a coup by the armed militias followed by the forced expulsion of all the pro-regulation people whose parents were immigrants after 1776
If she was a horse, she would be unsaleable with those scary wild eyes
If she was a horse, she would be unsaleable with those scary wild eyes
Apr 9th 2009, 2:43 am
#535
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Re: Taking your gun to another state drama...
Well, I think you may have damaged your own argument, inadvertently. How many people were killed in LA during the "Rodney King" event? Answer (according to this site): 13. If the LA population had been fully armed, just how many shoot-outs do you think would have ensued, and how many more deaths do you think there would be? I don't care how many gang members get shot, but I'm 100% sure that a lot of law-abiding but gun-wielding citizens would have been killed in shoot-outs with gang members.
Apr 9th 2009, 2:47 am
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Re: Taking your gun to another state drama...
Maybe this thread can be split or something. I'm interested in the outcome of the original incident with the person caught in New York with a prohibited firearm. I've lost interest in the back and forth between people who will never agree and merely keep restating their point of view.
Apr 9th 2009, 2:55 am
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Apr 9th 2009, 2:57 am
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