Originally Posted by paul1968mcr

Nar I shot Police Pistol back home for a few years (I had an FAC), we had manish shaped targets....NPA approved of course.

All I gotta get the little sod to do is load his own mags....my XDM9 hold 19 9mm and is a right S.O.A.B on the thumbs.

Originally Posted by exvj

He did very well and looked justifiably proud of himself

The Brits would probably have had a target of round circles rather than people shaped targets, but they would be in denial about what he is training for

I had a 3" magnum 12 bore (gauge) at 13 (I used BB on rats !) and the kick broke the cheap beech stock. Scary stuff but nice after you survive it and know you can do it !

Originally Posted by NC Penguin

I've decided I don't like you.

Originally Posted by exvj

When I was with the Police I was firearms trained and the first session was at an army base at Strensall York.
I had to do my targets laid prone with the colonel standing behind me and his Yorkshire terrier snapping at my ankles
That's what I call handicapping - but I guess it's even worse if someone is shooting back
The year before that, a night watchman had his head blown off at 1am by a burglar with a 12 bore. Execution style killing. The Police arrived (all unarmed) and the young Inspector climbed into the yard of the premises and was shot under the armpit and died. They got me out of bed at 2am and we were searching farm haylofts half a mile away in the dark. I was unarmed except for my truncheon and the specialist firearms guys were sending me up ladders to search haylofts for the murderer while they stood at the bottom of the ladder

I think that is the last time my neck hair stood up - it does you know
Now I always laugh when the cats tail fluffs up

Originally Posted by Folinskyinla

I've also read that during the Korean war, the NK and Chinese would take cover when the US riflemen opened up and then wait for the sound of "clank, clank, clank" as the time to advance. It took some time to instill discipline to have 1/2 of a squad restrain their fire a bit so not everyone was reloading at the same time.

[I also wonder how many M-1 thumbs happened in combat?]

Originally Posted by Bill_S

I've heard the same story about the enemy waiting for the sound of the enbloc being ejected... and I once heard a WWII vet say that Garand thumb was pretty common in combat.

Originally Posted by Folinskyinla

Hi:

The Garands we had had pretty wood stocks. With a few exceptions, the M-14's had wood colored plastic stocks -- ugly as sin. The M-16 was either sexy or looked like a toy [at the time].

During WWII, from what I understand, the US Army was the only army in the world with a semi-automatic battle rifle -- and I've read where some people think that it was an advantage to the US infantry man. However, I will say that my two uncles with CIB's never spoke about it -- except that the one who got the Purple Heart cursed the Jewish Doctor who sent him right back to the line because he felt that was where a good Jewish soldier belonged -- killing Germans. But that uncle tended to joke a lot so I never figured out if he was serious or not.

I've also read that during the Korean war, the NK and Chinese would take cover when the US riflemen opened up and then wait for the sound of "clank, clank, clank" as the time to advance. It took some time to instill discipline to have 1/2 of a squad restrain their fire a bit so not everyone was reloading at the same time.

[I also wonder how many M-1 thumbs happened in combat?]

Originally Posted by paul1968mcr

education is my first line of defence, my son has fired a variety of handguns rifles and shotguns. He's aware of the damage they can do, and why he should never touch one (lesson taught with a ruger 10/22 and a noise blank).

second is security, I have a gun safe locked with my firearms inside, one is kept loaded near me during the night...it's loaded though not with one up the flue - we have an alarm system.

My daughter is 9 and scare to death of guns storms and tornadoes, I took her to the range...she pooped herself, she won't go anywhere near my guns....though I am still very carefull, she's only 9 after all.

Here's a vid of my son (13) shooting a 9mm pistol.

http://s224.photobucket.com/albums/d...t=P1010399.flv

Originally Posted by anotherlimey

You can probably pick up that same Garand you used! Most from the CMP program are post WWII.

Originally Posted by meauxna

Not in Oregon, pills only and the patient has to take them herself.

Originally Posted by exvj

Could be some of the injuries were what the brits called 'blighty wounds'

Originally Posted by Folinskyinla

Hi:

M-1 Thumb is akin to stubbing your toe -- unlikely to even take a grunt off the line even temporarily. Just hurts a lot.

At the time the M-1 was designed -- the thought was that box magazines were not such a good idea -- a thought that turned out to be incorrect in practice. [BTW, when I was in the army, we called the magazines "clips." I understand that the terminology is in dispute]. Hence the top loading box clip and you had to be very careful of your thumb, lest the bolt spring forward onto your thumb -- a very easy thing to do if you were not exceedingly careful and watched what you were doing.

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl

An article has just been shown on our local news...a Giants footballer found in possession of a gun in NYC. It said although the sentence is 3.5 years...most people cut a deal and end up serving 1.5 years.