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Old Oct 12th 2021, 4:25 am
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Originally Posted by Boiler View Post
California has banned them.
I can't find any verification for this. Could you please back this claim up with some reference? Assuming 'them' is 'backup generators' ... . I see requirements that they are set back over 5' from the home, mounted on concrete, correctly wired, etc ... but nothing about being banned.
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https://www.yahoo.com/now/california...174600432.html

​​​​​​California took another step toward its goal of ridding the state of all gas-powered engines thanks to a new bill signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom on Saturday.

The new law will ban the sale of all off-road, gas-powered engines, including generators, lawn equipment, pressure washers, chainsaws, weed trimmers, and even golf carts. Under the new law, these machines must be zero-emissions, meaning they will have to be either battery-powered or plug-in, according to the Los Angeles Times.
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https://www.yahoo.com/now/california...174600432.html

​​​​​​California took another step toward its goal of ridding the state of all gas-powered engines thanks to a new bill signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom on Saturday.

The new law will ban the sale of all off-road, gas-powered engines, including generators, lawn equipment, pressure washers, chainsaws, weed trimmers, and even golf carts. Under the new law, these machines must be zero-emissions, meaning they will have to be either battery-powered or plug-in, according to the Los Angeles Times.
New portable gas-powered generators also must be zero-emission by 2028, which also could be delayed at the discretion of the state agency. That isn't banning them.
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https://www.yahoo.com/now/california...174600432.html

​​​​​​California took another step toward its goal of ridding the state of all gas-powered engines thanks to a new bill signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom on Saturday.

The new law will ban the sale of all off-road, gas-powered engines, including generators, lawn equipment, pressure washers, chainsaws, weed trimmers, and even golf carts. Under the new law, these machines must be zero-emissions, meaning they will have to be either battery-powered or plug-in, according to the Los Angeles Times.
A plug in or battery powered generator would seem to defeat the point of a backup generator…

Does this include NG and LPG?

That basically leaves battery backup / sole etc. I doubt they would want people building SMR’s in CA…

https://www.wsj.com/articles/mini-nu...er-11613055608
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New portable gas-powered generators also must be zero-emission by 2028, which also could be delayed at the discretion of the state agency. That isn't banning them.
The LA Times article also says "... the law specifically requires the California Air Resources Board to adjust the restrictions on generators based on their “expected availability” of that equipment on the commercial and retail market."
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I'm surprised California hasn't got further with v2h technology. The Mitsubishi Outlander has 2x1.5 KW 110v outlets coming off the driving battery. This can easily be used as a generator if needed. Most US cars only have 15W 110v outlets

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Old Oct 15th 2021, 2:42 pm
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A plug in or battery powered generator would seem to defeat the point of a backup generator

Does this include NG and LPG?

That basically leaves battery backup / sole etc. I doubt they would want people building SMR’s in CA…

https://www.wsj.com/articles/mini-nu...er-11613055608
I think they were referring to plug in lawn tools using an extension cord.
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Old Oct 15th 2021, 9:11 pm
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The LA Times article also says "... the law specifically requires the California Air Resources Board to adjust the restrictions on generators based on their “expected availability” of that equipment on the commercial and retail market."
I would be curious how much it would cost and the lead time for a CARB shop to modify a small petrol engine. Right now it is around $14,000 and 6 month wait for George at G&K to modify a 200/300Tdi Land Rover Diesel.
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I think the bill calls to ban all engines under 25hp. So clearly the answer is to fit larger engines to all affected equipment.
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We have a small 5500 watt Briggs and Stratton generator we use for power in remote locations. The float bowl was leaking and the parts from B & S were out of stock.
I found a replacement carb on Amazon for $18. It bolted right on, I had to change the choke set up but so far it is running fine.
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We have a small 5500 watt Briggs and Stratton generator we use for power in remote locations. The float bowl was leaking and the parts from B & S were out of stock.
I found a replacement carb on Amazon for $18. It bolted right on, I had to change the choke set up but so far it is running fine.
Yep. I just did the same with my Troy-Bilt trimmer. Faster and cheaper than trying to fix it. Came with all the hoses etc. and even a new fuel filter. Total cost was $16.00 I think.
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A chap who did small engine repairs told me for the majority of small engines he never touched the carb, he just threw the old one away and fitted a new one. I can see why now at these prices
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Amazon is quite a good source for obscure spare parts for things. Repaired one of our kitchen appliances by watching a YouTube video and sourcing the electrical components from Amazon. About $10 to fix instead of $70 for a new dehydrator.
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