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Old Aug 7th 2020, 10:17 pm
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Originally Posted by caretaker
Wasn't there another one somewhere in Canada where the airliner clipped the light array at the end of the runway on approach, and they made it down, but there were chunks of steel stuck in the front end?
Paul Brickhill's book about the dambusters talked about training missions where planes came back with leaves and twigs in the air inlets. The mission was flown at sixty feet above ground level !
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Originally Posted by caretaker
Wasn't there another one somewhere in Canada where the airliner clipped the light array at the end of the runway on approach, and they made it down, but there were chunks of steel stuck in the front end?
This one in Halifax in 2015 with Air Canada.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...oard-1.4121029




Westjet had an incident this January in Halifax.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ifax-1.5416933

This one in 2018 in Halifax

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...-747-1.4895103

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Originally Posted by caretaker
Wasn't there another one somewhere in Canada where the airliner clipped the light array at the end of the runway on approach, and they made it down, but there were chunks of steel stuck in the front end?
the one I was thinking of can’t have been August 2005. It was later than 2005 and during the winter months.
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the one I was thinking of can’t have been August 2005. It was later than 2005 and during the winter months.
This one?

"The Transportation Safety Board has found that approach procedures, poor visibility and reduced airfield lighting led to the March 29, 2015, plane crash at Halifax Stanfield International Airport that injured more than two dozen people. ...."
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This one?

"The Transportation Safety Board has found that approach procedures, poor visibility and reduced airfield lighting led to the March 29, 2015, plane crash at Halifax Stanfield International Airport that injured more than two dozen people. ...."
No this one was at Pearson Airport, Toronto. It was winter, snowy/icy conditions and it skidded off the end of the runway into an embankment. Can’t find a link...maybe I imagined it.

Found another but it isn’t the one...

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...m-halifax.html
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
This one in Halifax in 2015 with Air Canada.
Yeah that's the one; radar antennae and not lights but good grief!


It's this image that stayed with me:


Any landing you can walk away from, and all that.

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Canadair water bomber down in Spain, 2 crew, sadly one died.
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Canadair water bomber down in Spain, 2 crew, sadly one died.
That one survived is surely more surprising.

There were two SEATs (single-engined air tankers, i.e. small ones) that collided in mid-air over Nevada a few days ago.

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That one survived is surely more surprising.

There were two SEATs (single-engined air tankers, i.e. small ones) that collided in mid-air over Nevada a few days ago.

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Yes,.

That's a shame, dangerous game.
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A few years ago a B-1 bomber did a wheels up landing at Diego Garcia. A 285 million dollar aircraft with over $7 million in damage. It’s back flying again. Not sure about the pilot.
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A few years ago a B-1 bomber did a wheels up landing at Diego Garcia. A 285 million dollar aircraft with over $7 million in damage. It’s back flying again. Not sure about the pilot.
I find it hard to imagine repairing a plane that has performed a wheels-up landing, even if it cost $285 million.
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There's probably a subtle difference between performing a wheels up landing and being involved in a wheels up landing. I feel intent needs to be considered.
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I find it hard to imagine repairing a plane that has performed a wheels-up landing, even if it cost $285 million.
i found a article about it but can’t post links. Easy to find with search. I think it happened in 2010. It was after a long flight from Dyess AFB in Texas. I wonder if it was the end of the pilots career?
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Report: Pilot Error Led To B-1 Belly Landing | Aero-News Network

A career ender, you'd think, for the pilot and co-pilot.

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Report: Pilot Error Led To B-1 Belly Landing | Aero-News Network

A career ender, you'd think, for the pilot and co-pilot.
Probably, but, writing as a non-pilot, the plane design doesn't seem to be ideal - it apparently relies on interpretation of some red lights and noticing that some green lights aren't on.

I would have thought that a fail-safe system would be preferable, whereby if you drop below, say, 1,000ft and simultaneously slow below, say, 200kts, that the landing gear should automatically deploy, unless deliberately overridden.

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