Planespotting II
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I knew they'd use heat, I was just having a laugh.
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A few more details about the flight last week.
Passengers when they arrived in Anchorage were allowed off the plane, and held in the north terminal which isn't expected to be used again until May and is separate from the main terminal, the airport is working with CDC to clean and disinfect the north terminal.
The pilots never left the aircraft in China and the airflow in the cabin of this aircraft is separate system vs the cabin so the pilots were never exposed. The healthcare workers in the cabin wore protective equipment throughout the flight.
Flight was originally supposed to go to Ontario, California airport, but destination was changed to March AFB.
Looks like the aircraft is back in service, it operated a flight Seattle to Seoul on Feb 2.
Passengers when they arrived in Anchorage were allowed off the plane, and held in the north terminal which isn't expected to be used again until May and is separate from the main terminal, the airport is working with CDC to clean and disinfect the north terminal.
The pilots never left the aircraft in China and the airflow in the cabin of this aircraft is separate system vs the cabin so the pilots were never exposed. The healthcare workers in the cabin wore protective equipment throughout the flight.
Flight was originally supposed to go to Ontario, California airport, but destination was changed to March AFB.
Looks like the aircraft is back in service, it operated a flight Seattle to Seoul on Feb 2.
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If anyone is interested, here is a new presentation of the known facts and data for the final route of MH370. My interpretation of this video is that they're saying that there is an alternative possible destination for MH370, that may be consistent with the known data (recovered debris, Inmarsat pings, etc.) not that there is any hard evidence that the plane actually went that route. What is new is the suggestion that the plane (may have) continued to follow international ATC/ radar boundaries long after it passed west over the Malaysian peninsular and headed south, and turned South East along the ATC/radar boundary between Indonesia and Australia, heading towards Christmas Island, where there is a runway that could have accommodated a 777. Apparently Inmarsat has declined to comment, and Boeing has also not participated in the reconstructions and modeling, at least not publicly.
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If anyone is interested, here is a new presentation of the known facts and data for the final route of MH370. My interpretation of this video is that they're saying that there is an alternative possible destination for MH370, that may be consistent with the known data (recovered debris, Inmarsat pings, etc.) not that there is any hard evidence that the plane actually went that route. What is new is the suggestion that the plane (may have) continued to follow international ATC/ radar boundaries long after it passed west over the Malaysian peninsular and headed south, and turned South East along the ATC/radar boundary between Indonesia and Australia, heading towards Christmas Island, where there is a runway that could have accommodated a 777. Apparently Inmarsat has declined to comment, and Boeing has also not participated in the reconstructions and modeling, at least not publicly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk1CxO9XGyQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk1CxO9XGyQ
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2 more Kalitta fligjts left Wuhan, one looks to be going to MCAS Miramar in San Diego.
N705CK & N713CK are the aircraft operating the flighta. Cruising at 27,000 feet currently.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbc...2257043/%3famp
Looks like Thurs there will be 2 more flights.
N705CK & N713CK are the aircraft operating the flighta. Cruising at 27,000 feet currently.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbc...2257043/%3famp
Looks like Thurs there will be 2 more flights.
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Rescue operation after plane skids off runway and splits in three
http://news.sky.com/story/plane-spli...unway-11926970
Oops. No deaths though which is good news. That’s the second incident though involving the same airline at the same airport. I’m sensing a pattern.
http://news.sky.com/story/plane-spli...unway-11926970
Oops. No deaths though which is good news. That’s the second incident though involving the same airline at the same airport. I’m sensing a pattern.
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Rescue operation after plane skids off runway and splits in three
http://news.sky.com/story/plane-spli...unway-11926970
Oops. No deaths though which is good news. That’s the second incident though involving the same airline at the same airport. I’m sensing a pattern.
http://news.sky.com/story/plane-spli...unway-11926970
Oops. No deaths though which is good news. That’s the second incident though involving the same airline at the same airport. I’m sensing a pattern.
So the plane skidded off the runway, broke into three pieces, and caught fire. .... And the Turkish transport minister said that the passengers had "experienced a rough landing"! I bet the passengers are glad that they didn't "have a minor accident".
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Rescue operation after plane skids off runway and splits in three
http://news.sky.com/story/plane-spli...unway-11926970
Oops. No deaths though which is good news. That’s the second incident though involving the same airline at the same airport. I’m sensing a pattern.
http://news.sky.com/story/plane-spli...unway-11926970
Oops. No deaths though which is good news. That’s the second incident though involving the same airline at the same airport. I’m sensing a pattern.
They also had a going off the runway incident in 2018 at Trabzon Airport.
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Looks like one dead now unfortunately, but when you consider the plane broke into 3, that’s still pretty amazing.
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Air China filed an emergency request with US DOT to adjust its flights to the US for 180 days.
They are seeking to drop flights to Houston and Newark and LA to Shenzhen and seeking to fly Beijing-Los Angeles-San Francisco combing 2 routes into 1 and Beijing-New York-Washington combing 2 routes into 1.
https://globalnews.ca/news/6505572/a...szDS6TgjPNtfq0
Seems demand has dropped significantly between the US and China.
They are seeking to drop flights to Houston and Newark and LA to Shenzhen and seeking to fly Beijing-Los Angeles-San Francisco combing 2 routes into 1 and Beijing-New York-Washington combing 2 routes into 1.
https://globalnews.ca/news/6505572/a...szDS6TgjPNtfq0
Seems demand has dropped significantly between the US and China.
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Cathay looks to have employees take 3 weeks unpaid leave March to June to conserve cash, presumably not all at once though.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/05/busin...rus/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/05/busin...rus/index.html
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Poor guy. Towing a 737 in Thailand and the tow bar broke and the plane rolled over the tug killing him.
This happened to me once, luckily I was pushing and not towing so the plane rolled away from me, towing is more dangerous as the plane will continue forward, the brake rider in the flight deck likely wont know there is a situation unless told by the tow driver which in this case likely had no time to even react.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...k-airport.html
This happened to me once, luckily I was pushing and not towing so the plane rolled away from me, towing is more dangerous as the plane will continue forward, the brake rider in the flight deck likely wont know there is a situation unless told by the tow driver which in this case likely had no time to even react.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...k-airport.html
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I didn't see anything recent about Atlas Air from last February, found an article from December using info the NTSB released.
Doesn't look like first officer should have been anywhere near the controls of a 767 based on his prior record, some of which he failed to disclose to Atlas Air.
FO joined Atlas Air in 2017 after failing to get a promotion at passenger airline Mesa Airlines after failing 2 simulator training sessions.
2 Mesa captains who evaluated the FO during his time there told the NTSB he would become flustered when encountering unexpected situations in training, and would make frantic mistakes and start pushing buttons without thinking what he was pushing.
He failed to finish training at Air Wisconsin and resigned citing personal reasons, and also failed to complete training at CommutAir and resigned due to lack of progress in training.
He failed to disclose his employment at Air Wisconsin and CommutAir and Atlas told the NTSB had they known, they would not have hired him.
His training at Atlas did not go well and required several rounds of remedial training.
"He failed his practical 767 type rating examination, the NTSB says, “due to unsatisfactory performance in crew resource management, threat and error management, non-precision approaches, steep turns and judgment.”
" a minute before impact, the automatic go-around switch was turned on" but " the activation may not have been intentional — the pilots made no mention of initiating a go-around. NTSB investigators suspect Aska may have become disoriented while the plane was in cloud cover, with the acceleration from the increased thrust tricking him into perceiving that the plane’s nose was too high, leading him to believe the plane was stalling. "
The final report isn't out yet, and well not looking good for the FO though.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeremyb.../#555c020e79cc
Doesn't look like first officer should have been anywhere near the controls of a 767 based on his prior record, some of which he failed to disclose to Atlas Air.
FO joined Atlas Air in 2017 after failing to get a promotion at passenger airline Mesa Airlines after failing 2 simulator training sessions.
2 Mesa captains who evaluated the FO during his time there told the NTSB he would become flustered when encountering unexpected situations in training, and would make frantic mistakes and start pushing buttons without thinking what he was pushing.
He failed to finish training at Air Wisconsin and resigned citing personal reasons, and also failed to complete training at CommutAir and resigned due to lack of progress in training.
He failed to disclose his employment at Air Wisconsin and CommutAir and Atlas told the NTSB had they known, they would not have hired him.
His training at Atlas did not go well and required several rounds of remedial training.
"He failed his practical 767 type rating examination, the NTSB says, “due to unsatisfactory performance in crew resource management, threat and error management, non-precision approaches, steep turns and judgment.”
" a minute before impact, the automatic go-around switch was turned on" but " the activation may not have been intentional — the pilots made no mention of initiating a go-around. NTSB investigators suspect Aska may have become disoriented while the plane was in cloud cover, with the acceleration from the increased thrust tricking him into perceiving that the plane’s nose was too high, leading him to believe the plane was stalling. "
The final report isn't out yet, and well not looking good for the FO though.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeremyb.../#555c020e79cc