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materialcontroller Feb 4th 2015 8:12 am

Re: Planespotting
 

Originally Posted by civilservant (Post 11555946)
Should be noted that this video hasn't yet been independently verified, so could be an elaborate fake. Either way, it's another blow to the aviation industry - especially in Asia.

You wouldn't get me on an Asian flagged aircraft, put it that way.

BBC News had dashcam footage from three different sources and all seemed pretty authentic.

lansbury Feb 4th 2015 8:15 am

Re: Planespotting
 

Originally Posted by Nutek (Post 11555961)
It hit that taxi cab (I think). Any idea if the cab occupants got away with that?

Injured but not deadly.

Nutek Feb 4th 2015 8:16 am

Re: Planespotting
 

Originally Posted by lansbury (Post 11555972)
Injured but not deadly.

SO lucky. Or not, I guess.

scrubbedexpat091 Feb 4th 2015 8:25 am

Re: Planespotting
 

Originally Posted by civilservant (Post 11555946)
Should be noted that this video hasn't yet been independently verified, so could be an elaborate fake. Either way, it's another blow to the aviation industry - especially in Asia.

You wouldn't get me on an Asian flagged aircraft, put it that way.

Asia is a big place, hard to lump all the airlines of the region into one. I wouldn't for example consider Japan's major airlines as unsafe.

civilservant Feb 4th 2015 9:12 am

Re: Planespotting
 

Originally Posted by materialcontroller (Post 11555966)
BBC News had dashcam footage from three different sources and all seemed pretty authentic.

I've only seen the one source, and it struck me as odd that the aircraft (which would essentially be fully fueled) could strike the bridge right across it's right wing tank and there not be a fire or trail of any sort.

It probably is authentic, just striking a note of caution - as all the articles I have read have done.


Asia is a big place, hard to lump all the airlines of the region into one. I wouldn't for example consider Japan's major airlines as unsafe.
Agreed, honestly I've always seen Japan as a separate entity to the rest of Asia.

scrubbedexpat091 Feb 4th 2015 10:40 am

Re: Planespotting
 

Originally Posted by civilservant (Post 11556027)
I've only seen the one source, and it struck me as odd that the aircraft (which would essentially be fully fueled) could strike the bridge right across it's right wing tank and there not be a fire or trail of any sort.

It probably is authentic, just striking a note of caution - as all the articles I have read have done.



Agreed, honestly I've always seen Japan as a separate entity to the rest of Asia.

It probably wasn't fully fueled...;) Unless going to the edge of the aircraft's range, airlines are only going to put on what is needed for the flight plus the reserves needed.

civilservant Feb 4th 2015 11:09 am

Re: Planespotting
 
Quite correct, I didn't put the caveat of 'for the trip' on the end :)

GeoffM Feb 4th 2015 12:23 pm

Re: Planespotting
 

Originally Posted by civilservant (Post 11556027)
Agreed, honestly I've always seen Japan as a separate entity to the rest of Asia.

:blink: Did you want to lump a few more countries and renowned airlines into the "not Asia" category? :confused:

Anyway, I was reading the news as I made my way out of LAX after disembarking from DL284. News like that before getting on a flight would have made me rather nervous - take-offs are always a bit nerve wracking for me. The picture didn't seem real but the video looked more convincing.

205mph tailwinds eastbound across the Pacific today :thumbup:

Nutek Feb 5th 2015 10:58 pm

Re: Planespotting
 
http://yaypics.smugmug.com/photos/i-...-3bTnzmb-S.jpg

Yorkieabroad Feb 6th 2015 3:15 am

Re: Planespotting
 

Originally Posted by civilservant (Post 11556027)

Agreed, honestly I've always seen Japan as a separate entity to the rest of Asia.

It's a broad brush that can paint a whole continent...what about Singapore? Hong Kong? They have a couple of decent flag carriers. Or EVA? I read something a while back (probably around MH370 sort of time, but can't remember where:o) that listed the top 10 airlines for safety over the previous ?? years. The only "western" airline mentioned was Virgin Atlantic, with the other 9 being Asian, Australasian, or Middle Eastern! It was probably a short timespan, and it could be argued that anyone can hold their breath for a minute if they need to, but some of these airlines have good long track records.

markonline1 Feb 6th 2015 5:50 am

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Safest airlines, top 3; Qantas, Air NZ, BA.

Yorkieabroad Feb 6th 2015 6:29 am

Re: Planespotting
 

Originally Posted by markonline1 (Post 11558039)
Safest airlines, top 3; Qantas, Air NZ, BA.

BA was conspicuous by its absence from the report I saw - that's why I remembered it, although I suspect like a lot of things, the reporting "body" can ping these things any which way by adjusting dates, what classes as a counting incident etc, not to mention motivation... :sneaky:

Pulaski Feb 6th 2015 6:45 am

Re: Planespotting
 

Originally Posted by Yorkieabroad (Post 11558092)
BA was conspicuous by its absence from the report I saw - that's why I remembered it, although I suspect like a lot of things, the reporting "body" can ping these things any which way by adjusting dates, what classes as a counting incident etc, not to mention motivation. .....

A Telegraph article on the subject from last month.

Nutek Feb 6th 2015 6:48 am

Re: Planespotting
 

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11558111)

Who the hell would fly with a company called "Scat"?

Yorkieabroad Feb 6th 2015 6:48 am

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Aha - I think I found it -http://abcnews.go.com/Business/malay...ry?id=22878175

It was just a look-back at the previous 12 months, and I've no idea what either of the reporting "agencies" are like, but this is the list of the safest they identified in 2013:-

Qantas Air New Zealand Emirates Etihad Cathay Pacific Singapore Airlines Virgin Atlantic EVA Air All Nippon Airways Royal Jordanian

I'm sure there are other longer term reviews out there, probably from more official bodies, but I'm willing to bet that at least some of these Asian airlines will feature towards the top of the safe lists however you cut it, which was really my point.


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