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civilservant Sep 28th 2014 11:20 am

Re: Planespotting
 
One wonders how a single person can really cause so much damage at a major ATC facility. I would have thought that many of the major systems would have been proofed in the last decade. An attack on an ATC facility would be a fairly foreseeable event.

AlphaTangoMike Sep 29th 2014 12:22 am

Re: Planespotting
 

Originally Posted by civilservant (Post 11421524)
One wonders how a single person can really cause so much damage at a major ATC facility. I would have thought that many of the major systems would have been proofed in the last decade. An attack on an ATC facility would be a fairly foreseeable event.

Agreed, this is quite shocking, but I would expect similar issues for other services/utilities.

It's the same for any corporate disaster recovery plan, it looks good on paper, but seldom works in practice. For all the talk of 'redundant systems', they are not easy to test (unless there's an actual failure of the primary system). Usually failing over / switching to the other system involves downtime and that's not acceptable during 'business hours'. So the systems get a perfunctory test over a weekend and it's usually deemed to be a 'success'.

SultanOfSwing Sep 29th 2014 12:56 am

Re: Planespotting
 

Originally Posted by Scouse Express (Post 11421512)
FAA has just announced that Chicago area flights won't be back to normal until October 13th.

This is due to the Cockwomble, who tried to kill himself, destroying the equipment at the Aurora (IL) ATC Facility.

The upside is, the owner of the company should hopefully still be stuck down in Austin waiting for a flight home. Unless he decides to drive, of course, but that'll still take him a day :D

Hopefully a quiet Monday is on the cards.

Pulaski Sep 29th 2014 1:06 am

Re: Planespotting
 

Originally Posted by AlphaTangoMike (Post 11421997)
Agreed, this is quite shocking, but I would expect similar issues for other services/utilities. .......

I suspect that security (systems and staff) was largely limited to keeping the building perimeter secure, and that, given the importance to the entire country of keeping air traffic flowing, security within ATC facilities is going to have to be improved.

Scouse Express Sep 30th 2014 5:09 am

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Just for the record, we have had at least one Tour Group stranded in the North East, since Saturday Morning, due to the actions of this Cockwomble.

50 people, with Hotel Rooms for 3 nights.

They are hoping to return to the Midwest, sometime, tonight. No Coaches available to bring them back, either,

SultanOfSwing Nov 13th 2014 7:42 am

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Nicked from arsebook :lol:

Who said pilots don't have a sense of humor?

civilservant Nov 13th 2014 8:55 am

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I've read most of these before, but they still give me a chuckle :)

markonline1 Nov 13th 2014 11:36 am

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2 of my old mates trying and, failing to get departures at LHR back up and running...


civilservant Nov 16th 2014 1:24 am

Re: Planespotting
 
Good Bye MD-11 -- Too Bad Nobody Ever Loved You - Forbes

Say goodbye to the last of the 'penis planes' (as my ex-wife called them) at least commercially - I flew on one once, and really quite liked it

SultanOfSwing Nov 16th 2014 8:22 am

Re: Planespotting
 

Originally Posted by civilservant (Post 11473931)
Good Bye MD-11 -- Too Bad Nobody Ever Loved You - Forbes

Say goodbye to the last of the 'penis planes' (as my ex-wife called them) at least commercially - I flew on one once, and really quite liked it

That's sad. I was always a fan of the three-holed widebodies. DC-10, MD-11, Tristar. I liked 'em all, myself. Too bad I never flew on one though.

Scouse Express Nov 16th 2014 11:24 pm

Re: Planespotting
 
Flying on an AA 757 from Chicago - Manchester, at the end of the Month.

Not looking forward to it....except the fact that I'm going Home for a bit.


Jim.

SultanOfSwing Nov 17th 2014 1:34 am

Re: Planespotting
 

Originally Posted by Scouse Express (Post 11474867)
Flying on an AA 757 from Chicago - Manchester, at the end of the Month.

Not looking forward to it....except the fact that I'm going Home for a bit.


Jim.

Bad luck.

I just recently did two Manchester-Chicago flights (outward leg was to Heathrow) on AA, and they used the 767 for those, so maybe it'll be slightly better on the way back.

Scouse Express Nov 17th 2014 1:59 am

Re: Planespotting
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 11474983)
Bad luck.

I just recently did two Manchester-Chicago flights (outward leg was to Heathrow) on AA, and they used the 767 for those, so maybe it'll be slightly better on the way back.

It's supposed to be going back to all 767 operation in 2015. But, spotty service.

No longer a daily flight, year round.


Jim

SultanOfSwing Nov 17th 2014 2:03 am

Re: Planespotting
 

Originally Posted by Scouse Express (Post 11475012)
It's supposed to be going back to all 767 operation in 2015. But, spotty service.

No longer a daily flight, year round.


Jim

One wonders, when AA retire the 767, if it will revert to a 757 service again. Can't see them operating their 787s on that route. Though, both flights I was on were quite full, so maybe they will.

Scouse Express Nov 17th 2014 2:13 am

Re: Planespotting
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 11475019)
One wonders, when AA retire the 767, if it will revert to a 757 service again. Can't see them operating their 787s on that route. Though, both flights I was on were quite full, so maybe they will.

They will have to do something soon, as both the 757 and 767 are about to age out.


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