Originally Posted by LondonSquirrel

Honest answer, would you rather be confronted by a deranged person with a knife or one with a loaded gun?

Originally Posted by Derrygal

Here we go again - looks like the gunman was a "lonewolf" ISIS sympathizer. Of course, the main reason he was able to get away with such carnage is due to the lack of gun control in this country. Nothing ever gets done..................

Originally Posted by Bud the Wiser

I was wondering why someone on a watch list was able to buy a gun(s)? Then I viewed this.............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6imFvSua3Kg

Originally Posted by Wintersong

And you're more than 3 times as likely to be killed with a knife in the US than with a gun in the UK. What does any of that actually prove? When you're comparing apples to oranges, you can't really draw any meaningful conclusions. "Attacks" is a very broad category so I don't know what circumstances your data would include. I'd also hazard a guess that if someone pulled a knife on you (i.e. a "knife attack") you'd have a much better chance of running away and escaping unharmed than if someone pulled a gun on you (i.e. a "gun attack").

Comparing actual homicides paints a different picture, and even then it's one that doesn't include the tragic accidental deaths. You don't often hear of how a 4yr old kid accidentally stabbed his/her mother to death from the backseat of the car...

Firearm homicides per 100,000

UK: 0.14
US: 3.43

Knife homicides per 100,000

UK: 0.55
US: 0.56

Total homicides per 100,000

UK: 1.0
US: 3.8

Originally Posted by katzgar

What happened in the UK is that when they ban guns the violence just switched over to knives, look it up

Originally Posted by Wintersong

I'm aware of that and I didn't disagree with it. However, comparing knife attacks in the UK to gun attacks in the US doesn't prove your point. Neither do ad hominem attacks, particularly when you're throwing stones from a glass house.

Originally Posted by dc koop

Good response from Obama but it wont stop the wah ! wah! Hillary going to take away my gun brigade. !
It's a fair bet this gun was obtained at a gun show. You know, those places where fat old rednecks parade around in military gear, guns slung over shoulders, beer guts sticking out of Army Surplus Store camouflage playing soldier boys, the kind who never served in the real military

Originally Posted by katzgar

What happened in the UK is that when they ban guns the violence just switched over to knives, look it up

Originally Posted by Bud the Wiser

I thought the analogy between car safety law and the attempts to change firearm laws was first class.

Originally Posted by LondonSquirrel

Honest answer, would you rather be confronted by a deranged person with a knife or one with a loaded gun?

Originally Posted by katzgar

A death or injury from a gun or from a knife is still a death or an injury. Using fake statistics is certainly going to earn you derision

Originally Posted by Wintersong

Back to your original point. There are more knife attacks in the UK than there are gun attacks in the US. Which proves... what, precisely?

Originally Posted by LondonSquirrel

According to today's Sunday Express, in a report about the shooting dead of Christina Grimmie, a singer who appeared in the US version of The Voice, by a deranged fan, in the past year there have been 372 mass shootings in the US in which 475 people were killed and 1870 wounded. This doesn't count all the murders by gun such as spousal murder, suicide by gun and accidental shootings.