Jerseygirl

50 dead, 50+ injured...

Orlando nightclub shooting: 50 killed in terror attack - CNN.com

Derrygal

Here we go again - looks like the gunman was a "lonewolf" ISIS sympathizer. Of course, the main reason he was able to get away with such carnage is due to the lack of gun control in this country. Nothing ever gets done..................

katzgar

two points. gun control on the continent kept mass shootings from happening didnt it?
gun control in the UK just means a huge up surge of knife attacks. You are twice as likely to be attacked with a knife in the UK as with a gun in the US.

username.exe

RIP the victims and Godspeed to those with injuries.

Absolutely horrific attack, already being called the most deadly domestic shooting of its kind in American history.

Derrygal

The UK isn't perfect, but you can kill a hell of a lot more people with a gun than you can with a knife...............

Jerseygirl

^^^^^That^^^^^

A nutcase isn't going to kill 50 people and injure 50+ more with a knife at one venue.

LondonSquirrel

According to today's Sunday Express, in a report about the shooting dead of Christina Grimmie, a singer who appeared in the US version of The Voice, by a deranged fan, in the past year there have been 372 mass shootings in the US in which 475 people were killed and 1870 wounded. This doesn't count all the murders by gun such as spousal murder, suicide by gun and accidental shootings.

LondonSquirrel

I guess this makes the yearly total 525 deaths and 1920 wounded.

katzgar

that is true but you are still twice as likely to be attacked with a knife in the UK as being attacked by a gun in the US. You might also bone up on how the UK/Wales cheats on calculating its homicide rate.

scrubbedexpat099

Same as in Paris, they must have very lax gun control.

LondonSquirrel

Honest answer, would you rather be confronted by a deranged person with a knife or one with a loaded gun?

Long and short of it is that nothing will change of course, and the shootings will carry on happening. Long history in the US, but of course there were TWO in Paris, that's the same as 372 isn't it? Sorry maths not my strong point.

katzgar

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Not even close to an honest answer

LondonSquirrel

I don't understand what you mean.

Bud the Wiser

I was wondering why someone on a watch list was able to buy a gun(s)? Then I viewed this.............

Wintersong

And you're more than 3 times as likely to be killed with a knife in the US than with a gun in the UK. What does any of that actually prove? When you're comparing apples to oranges, you can't really draw any meaningful conclusions. "Attacks" is a very broad category so I don't know what circumstances your data would include. I'd also hazard a guess that if someone pulled a knife on you (i.e. a "knife attack") you'd have a much better chance of running away and escaping unharmed than if someone pulled a gun on you (i.e. a "gun attack").

Comparing actual homicides paints a different picture, and even then it's one that doesn't include the tragic accidental deaths. You don't often hear of how a 4yr old kid accidentally stabbed his/her mother to death from the backseat of the car...

Firearm homicides per 100,000

UK: 0.14
US: 3.43

Knife homicides per 100,000

UK: 0.55
US: 0.56

Total homicides per 100,000

UK: 1.0
US: 3.8