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Re: OMG! Should we try this again?!?
Originally Posted by Sally Redux
(Post 10780352)
Is he unsure about the specific job, or the whole idea of moving back?
My other gripes about the everyday little things, like shopping in new stores, or adapting to a new process of doing chores (like laundry), I will just have to learn to accept. |
Re: OMG! Should we try this again?!?
Originally Posted by Bluegrass Lass
(Post 10780354)
adapting to a new process of doing chores (like laundry), I will just have to learn to accept.
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Re: OMG! Should we try this again?!?
Originally Posted by Bluegrass Lass
(Post 10780354)
The idea of moving back. I think he just lacks some confidence that we moving back for the 'right' reasons. I've told him that there really aren't any 'right' reasons, only the reasons that make sense for us. I won't deny I have my reservations and concerns, but overall I do feel positive about returning. Most of my concerns are financial related, and those can be alleviated once I have a found a job..which hopefully won't take too long.
My other gripes about the everyday little things, like shopping in new stores, or adapting to a new process of doing chores (like laundry), I will just have to learn to accept. |
Re: OMG! Should we try this again?!?
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
(Post 10780356)
There is a very informative thread about front loaders vs. top loaders around here somewhere...
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Re: OMG! Should we try this again?!?
Originally Posted by paranoidandroid
(Post 10780384)
You mean the thread titled "Problems sleeping? Please read".
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Re: OMG! Should we try this again?!?
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
(Post 10780356)
There is a very informative thread about front loaders vs. top loaders around here somewhere...
I was hoping to be able to stay here long enough to attend my dad's wedding in early Sept. though. I think he will be disappointed if we can't make it. Will just have to crunch some numbers and be careful with the budget to see if we can make it stretch far enough for me to maybe be able to take a trip back here for it. The other funny thing is, we literally just moved into a new apartment last weekend. We haven't even unpacked fully. Now I guess there really isn't a need to...except for going through and making the tough decisions on what to take and what to sell. We will have to do that rather quickly, seeing as we will need to sort out the shipping in less than 5 weeks and try to get everything sold. Any suggestions on shipping companies that we can ship around 150cubic feet of boxes from Seattle? |
Re: OMG! Should we try this again?!?
Originally Posted by Bluegrass Lass
(Post 10780390)
Oh, I think I've probably read a good portion of that one..might prove helpful. ;)
I was hoping to be able to stay here long enough to attend my dad's wedding in early Sept. though. I think he will be disappointed if we can't make it. Will just have to crunch some numbers and be careful with the budget to see if we can make it stretch far enough for me to maybe be able to take a trip back here for it. The other funny thing is, we literally just moved into a new apartment last weekend. We haven't even unpacked fully. Now I guess there really isn't a need to...except for going through and making the tough decisions on what to take and what to sell. We will have to do that rather quickly, seeing as we will need to sort out the shipping in less than 5 weeks and try to get everything sold. Any suggestions on shipping companies that we ship around 150cubic feet of boxes from Seattle? |
Re: OMG! Should we try this again?!?
Originally Posted by Bluegrass Lass
(Post 10778003)
I agree. His potential salary is actually a bit more than mid-£30k's, which I do think is a pretty good salary, esp for Scotland. We could get a fairly decent flat for around £500-£600pcm, and should still have enough to live off of.
And those Highland trips aren't idyllic in the rain. I lived there 3 years and DH his whole life, and went to U of Edinburgh. It is NOT cheap to live there. I realize Seattle is pricey, but starting over at that salary in Edinburgh is something you really need to consider. Spend more time than a visit and explore your housing options. Just trying to dose a bit of reality. We have tons of friends still there and they agreed. Have the new employer take you folks over for a relo look about. |
Re: OMG! Should we try this again?!?
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
(Post 10780385)
Yes, it will help Bluegrass overcome the jet lag she will experience too.
"The thing about front loarders is that th.." :zzz: |
Re: OMG! Should we try this again?!?
Originally Posted by Bomjeito
(Post 10781545)
Umm, have you lived lately in the Edinburgh area? 30K GBP a year in edinburgh is not possible, this is what my Scottish husband says. You will need to live Saturn outside and the commute in and out is horrific.
And those Highland trips aren't idyllic in the rain. I lived there 3 years and DH his whole life, and went to U of Edinburgh. It is NOT cheap to live there. I realize Seattle is pricey, but starting over at that salary in Edinburgh is something you really need to consider. Spend more time than a visit and explore your housing options. Just trying to dose a bit of reality. We have tons of friends still there and they agreed. Have the new employer take you folks over for a relo look about. Living in Seattle has been an absolute sticker shock to us. We were spending $1700/mo on a 2bd, and are now spending $1200 (in a completely different area) on a 1bd. Not to mention, the high sales tax on everything here, and the high property costs and high medical costs. Long term, we cannot afford to live here, even on the higher salary my OH is making currently. I am a contractor, and given my medical issues, I don't have any long term prospects for work out here (at least none that are stable and full-time). And we also know it's possible that in the US, my medical issues could easily bankrupt us down the road. We are aware of the financial ramifications and constraints of the move, and we have been discussing them until we are blue in the face. It all comes down to balancing financial practicalities against emotional ties that can't be measured quantitatively. We know that there are going to difficult times if we move, but we also know that we will face hard times in the US down the road too. And one of the key things that really make us consider the move is the fact that my OH could be forced to stay in a job he hates, just so he can retain health insurance for us. If we have to live a bit outside the city centre or even outside Edinburgh (which I fully expect) and have him commute in, I have no problems with that. There's also a strong possibility that this company will ask him to work full time in their Dundee office down the road, as he will be commuting there regularly to support that office. I'd like to think that £36k would enough to live off of in Dundee. For your other points, Bomjeito: The company is not offering a recon trip, and we cannot afford to take one on our own dime (I wish we could.) I have visited Edinburgh, but have spent a large portion of time in Glasgow. While I know there are differences between the 2 cities, there are still enough similarities that we do know what to realistically expect. And it rains all the time in Scotland. We are fully aware of the not-so-ideal weather in Scotland. To be honest, we much prefer the cooler weather. We aren't being romantic, we do understand the impact on us financially making a move. Which is why there is still a chance we won't accept it, and may stay here in the US; albeit, in a different location. We are just stuck weighing up emotional and intangible benefits of going, versus practical financial reasons for staying. And we have to figure out which are going to make us happier in the long term. It's not an easy decision to make by any means. |
Re: OMG! Should we try this again?!?
As my darling, late sister used to say- "You don't owe them an autobiography!"
You have a unique set of circumstances and all the good judgement to work it out! Good luck with it all! At this point I confess that our life has been a slow progression north (apart fom the detour to the US) and I've always hoped we'd end up in Edinburgh. Just wishing you luck Bluegrass Lass. |
Re: OMG! Should we try this again?!?
Originally Posted by Bluegrass Lass
(Post 10781751)
Not that I like sharing too much personal detail, but the salary being offered is £36k. While I know that is not a fortune, it is still quite a bit more than the £28k he was making in Glasgow when we left in late 2011. From what we've been researching on rightmove.co.uk, there appear to be some decent flats that can be had around the £500 to £600pcm. This would be adequate to get us started and settled, while I look for work. We have no children to worry about as yet, just our 2 cats.
Living in Seattle has been an absolute sticker shock to us. We were spending $1700/mo on a 2bd, and are now spending $1200 (in a completely different area) on a 1bd. Not to mention, the high sales tax on everything here, and the high property costs and high medical costs. Long term, we cannot afford to live here, even on the higher salary my OH is making currently. I am a contractor, and given my medical issues, I don't have any long term prospects for work out here (at least none that are stable and full-time). And we also know it's possible that in the US, my medical issues could easily bankrupt us down the road. We are aware of the financial ramifications and constraints of the move, and we have been discussing them until we are blue in the face. It all comes down to balancing financial practicalities against emotional ties that can't be measured quantitatively. We know that there are going to difficult times if we move, but we also know that we will face hard times in the US down the road too. And one of the key things that really make us consider the move is the fact that my OH could be forced to stay in a job he hates, just so he can retain health insurance for us. If we have to live a bit outside the city centre or even outside Edinburgh (which I fully expect) and have him commute in, I have no problems with that. There's also a strong possibility that this company will ask him to work full time in their Dundee office down the road, as he will be commuting there regularly to support that office. I'd like to think that £36k would enough to live off of in Dundee. For your other points, Bomjeito: The company is not offering a recon trip, and we cannot afford to take one on our own dime (I wish we could.) I have visited Edinburgh, but have spent a large portion of time in Glasgow. While I know there are differences between the 2 cities, there are still enough similarities that we do know what to realistically expect. And it rains all the time in Scotland. We are fully aware of the not-so-ideal weather in Scotland. To be honest, we much prefer the cooler weather. We aren't being romantic, we do understand the impact on us financially making a move. Which is why there is still a chance we won't accept it, and may stay here in the US; albeit, in a different location. We are just stuck weighing up emotional and intangible benefits of going, versus practical financial reasons for staying. And we have to figure out which are going to make us happier in the long term. It's not an easy decision to make by any means. You don't have to explain yourself honey;) a lot of people can live happily and comfortably on a wage that others would be horrified to have to survive on....its all about being content, having less stress in life and finding somewhere you feel you belong. You'll be fine:thumbsup: |
Re: OMG! Should we try this again?!?
Originally Posted by Bluegrass Lass
(Post 10777993)
Thanks LIW. That's a pretty good quote to try and live by. There are sooo many variables that go into answering the question of 'which country', it's hard to understand what's in one's heart sometimes. This offer has come completely out the blue, and is so very unexpected, esp since they are offering relo assistance - which we hoped for, but knew it was very long shot.
It almost seems too good to be true. When would another job offer come along that actually offers the relo? And its in a great location. I've visited Edinburgh, and think its a beautiful city. And we've realized that despite the 3k mile difference between Louisville and Seattle, much is still the same about living in the US no matter the location and local politics. Are we naive, & romantic, with rose-tinted glasses on, to presume that life in Scotland would be any different or better? Its nice to know we'd never have to worry about medical expenses there, but what are the realistic drawbacks to NHS? I really have no clue how the system works (having not had to use it when there previously), and I have a great fear of the unknown given an existing medical condition. But I recognize there are intangible benefits to Scotland. The history, the culture, being able to take trips into the Highlands, or England or over to Europe easier. How do you weigh that up? <sigh> so confused..It doesn't help that we are held in the grip of analysis paralysis after a series of disappointing decisions in the last couple of years. Afraid to stay, and afraid to go. But there is only one life, and you do have to try and live with no regrets. And should we let financial obligations (i.e credit cards, student loans) hold us back from trying to make a go of it in Scotland? At this point in my life, I'd have to just say to hell with the debt, let's find a place that we can find some happiness and settle down! What didn't you like in Scotland when you moved last year, what made you come back? If you were saving to go back anyway, this seems like the perfect opportunity. Even if you still have some debts to pay after you have left, it's surely better than having those debts to pay, and having to save for your air fares/removal... not to mention your new visa costs |
Re: OMG! Should we try this again?!?
Originally Posted by Bluegrass Lass
(Post 10781751)
Not that I like sharing too much personal detail, but the salary being offered is £36k. While I know that is not a fortune, it is still quite a bit more than the £28k he was making in Glasgow when we left in late 2011. From what we've been researching on rightmove.co.uk, there appear to be some decent flats that can be had around the £500 to £600pcm. This would be adequate to get us started and settled, while I look for work. We have no children to worry about as yet, just our 2 cats.
Living in Seattle has been an absolute sticker shock to us. We were spending $1700/mo on a 2bd, and are now spending $1200 (in a completely different area) on a 1bd. Not to mention, the high sales tax on everything here, and the high property costs and high medical costs. Long term, we cannot afford to live here, even on the higher salary my OH is making currently. I am a contractor, and given my medical issues, I don't have any long term prospects for work out here (at least none that are stable and full-time). And we also know it's possible that in the US, my medical issues could easily bankrupt us down the road. We are aware of the financial ramifications and constraints of the move, and we have been discussing them until we are blue in the face. It all comes down to balancing financial practicalities against emotional ties that can't be measured quantitatively. We know that there are going to difficult times if we move, but we also know that we will face hard times in the US down the road too. And one of the key things that really make us consider the move is the fact that my OH could be forced to stay in a job he hates, just so he can retain health insurance for us. If we have to live a bit outside the city centre or even outside Edinburgh (which I fully expect) and have him commute in, I have no problems with that. There's also a strong possibility that this company will ask him to work full time in their Dundee office down the road, as he will be commuting there regularly to support that office. I'd like to think that £36k would enough to live off of in Dundee. For your other points, Bomjeito: The company is not offering a recon trip, and we cannot afford to take one on our own dime (I wish we could.) I have visited Edinburgh, but have spent a large portion of time in Glasgow. While I know there are differences between the 2 cities, there are still enough similarities that we do know what to realistically expect. And it rains all the time in Scotland. We are fully aware of the not-so-ideal weather in Scotland. To be honest, we much prefer the cooler weather. We aren't being romantic, we do understand the impact on us financially making a move. Which is why there is still a chance we won't accept it, and may stay here in the US; albeit, in a different location. We are just stuck weighing up emotional and intangible benefits of going, versus practical financial reasons for staying. And we have to figure out which are going to make us happier in the long term. It's not an easy decision to make by any means. |
Re: OMG! Should we try this again?!?
Originally Posted by Bluegrass Lass
(Post 10781751)
Not that I like sharing too much personal detail, but the salary being offered is £36k. While I know that is not a fortune, it is still quite a bit more than the £28k he was making in Glasgow when we left in late 2011. From what we've been researching on rightmove.co.uk, there appear to be some decent flats that can be had around the £500 to £600pcm. This would be adequate to get us started and settled, while I look for work. We have no children to worry about as yet, just our 2 cats.
Living in Seattle has been an absolute sticker shock to us. We were spending $1700/mo on a 2bd, and are now spending $1200 (in a completely different area) on a 1bd. Not to mention, the high sales tax on everything here, and the high property costs and high medical costs. Long term, we cannot afford to live here, even on the higher salary my OH is making currently. I am a contractor, and given my medical issues, I don't have any long term prospects for work out here (at least none that are stable and full-time). And we also know it's possible that in the US, my medical issues could easily bankrupt us down the road. We are aware of the financial ramifications and constraints of the move, and we have been discussing them until we are blue in the face. It all comes down to balancing financial practicalities against emotional ties that can't be measured quantitatively. We know that there are going to difficult times if we move, but we also know that we will face hard times in the US down the road too. And one of the key things that really make us consider the move is the fact that my OH could be forced to stay in a job he hates, just so he can retain health insurance for us. If we have to live a bit outside the city centre or even outside Edinburgh (which I fully expect) and have him commute in, I have no problems with that. There's also a strong possibility that this company will ask him to work full time in their Dundee office down the road, as he will be commuting there regularly to support that office. I'd like to think that £36k would enough to live off of in Dundee. For your other points, Bomjeito: The company is not offering a recon trip, and we cannot afford to take one on our own dime (I wish we could.) I have visited Edinburgh, but have spent a large portion of time in Glasgow. While I know there are differences between the 2 cities, there are still enough similarities that we do know what to realistically expect. And it rains all the time in Scotland. We are fully aware of the not-so-ideal weather in Scotland. To be honest, we much prefer the cooler weather. We aren't being romantic, we do understand the impact on us financially making a move. Which is why there is still a chance we won't accept it, and may stay here in the US; albeit, in a different location. We are just stuck weighing up emotional and intangible benefits of going, versus practical financial reasons for staying. And we have to figure out which are going to make us happier in the long term. It's not an easy decision to make by any means. Where about is th Edinburgh office? If on the west side then fife would be a good bet. |
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