More deported for minor crimes
Apr 10th 2014, 8:41 pm
#46
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Re: More deported for minor crimes
"Ten months ago, Snow concluded that Arpaio's office systematically racially profiled Latinos in its immigration and regular traffic patrols and unreasonably prolonged the detentions of people during traffic stops."
He's quite notorious this Sheriff it seems.
Apr 10th 2014, 8:47 pm
#47
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Re: More deported for minor crimes
There are a lot of strands to it.
People who live in poverty in a country where they might get decapitated or whatever will take desperate measures.
Business owners welcome cheap, non-organized labour.
People get used to having gardeners, housekeepers, pool cleaners, nannies.
It's bloody difficult to do manual work in these temperatures.
The individuals are generally charming, hard-working and have more in common with us Brits I find.
However, some kind of immigration policy is generally regarded as necessary. Given that fact, people not in compliance are putting themselves at risk of deportation.
Clearly the current law is outdated but reforms get held up by political point-scoring.
Leaf-blowers just pollute the whole area with dust and the gardeners' jalopies breaking down regularly add to the LA gridlock.
People who live in poverty in a country where they might get decapitated or whatever will take desperate measures.
Business owners welcome cheap, non-organized labour.
People get used to having gardeners, housekeepers, pool cleaners, nannies.
It's bloody difficult to do manual work in these temperatures.
The individuals are generally charming, hard-working and have more in common with us Brits I find.
However, some kind of immigration policy is generally regarded as necessary. Given that fact, people not in compliance are putting themselves at risk of deportation.
Clearly the current law is outdated but reforms get held up by political point-scoring.
Leaf-blowers just pollute the whole area with dust and the gardeners' jalopies breaking down regularly add to the LA gridlock.
Apr 10th 2014, 10:20 pm
#49
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Re: More deported for minor crimes
Success rate is very high, especially for simple overstays.
Apr 10th 2014, 10:22 pm
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Re: More deported for minor crimes
There are a lot of strands to it.
People who live in poverty in a country where they might get decapitated or whatever will take desperate measures.
Business owners welcome cheap, non-organized labour.
People get used to having gardeners, housekeepers, pool cleaners, nannies.
It's bloody difficult to do manual work in these temperatures.
The individuals are generally charming, hard-working and have more in common with us Brits I find.
However, some kind of immigration policy is generally regarded as necessary. Given that fact, people not in compliance are putting themselves at risk of deportation.
Clearly the current law is outdated but reforms get held up by political point-scoring.
Leaf-blowers just pollute the whole area with dust and the gardeners' jalopies breaking down regularly add to the LA gridlock.
People who live in poverty in a country where they might get decapitated or whatever will take desperate measures.
Business owners welcome cheap, non-organized labour.
People get used to having gardeners, housekeepers, pool cleaners, nannies.
It's bloody difficult to do manual work in these temperatures.
The individuals are generally charming, hard-working and have more in common with us Brits I find.
However, some kind of immigration policy is generally regarded as necessary. Given that fact, people not in compliance are putting themselves at risk of deportation.
Clearly the current law is outdated but reforms get held up by political point-scoring.
Leaf-blowers just pollute the whole area with dust and the gardeners' jalopies breaking down regularly add to the LA gridlock.
Apr 11th 2014, 4:17 am
#53
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Re: More deported for minor crimes
Depending on their agenda, the media tends to emphasize their point of view.
This one is from the right leaning National Review.
The ICE report noted that of those 368,644 removals, 235,093 (or nearly two-thirds) were carried out on individuals “apprehended while, or shortly after, attempting to illegally enter the United States.” This shows that while the Obama administration continues to deport illegal immigrants in large numbers, most of these removals do not constitute a “deportation” in the conventional sense.
Obama Administration Inflating Deportation Numbers
This one is from Pew Research.
About six-in-ten unauthorized immigrants deported in fiscal year 2013 had been convicted of a federal or state crime, according to Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Of all those deported, 33% had committed at least one felony—crimes ranging from murder to failure to appear in court, or at least three misdemeanors. That means 152,000 immigrants were deported but did not have a criminal conviction. Another 95,000 were deported and had a criminal record that included no more than two misdemeanors.
In 2013, 59% of deported immigrants convicted of a crime
This is from Statistic Brain.
Convicted Criminals: 55%
Immigration Fugitives: 3%
Repeat Immigration Violators: 21%
Border Removal: 17%
Other Removable Aliens: 4%
Number of US Deportations
All these seem to conflict with each other but if the right wing is correct that 2/3rds were "apprehended while, or shortly after, attempting to illegally enter the United States", the other links then can make sense. For example, Pew Research indicates that about 1/3rd didn't have criminal convictions but if 2/3rd were caught at or near the border, it is likely that about 1/2 of those didn't have criminal convictions accounting for the majority of those deported without criminal records.
This one is from the right leaning National Review.
The ICE report noted that of those 368,644 removals, 235,093 (or nearly two-thirds) were carried out on individuals “apprehended while, or shortly after, attempting to illegally enter the United States.” This shows that while the Obama administration continues to deport illegal immigrants in large numbers, most of these removals do not constitute a “deportation” in the conventional sense.
Obama Administration Inflating Deportation Numbers
This one is from Pew Research.
About six-in-ten unauthorized immigrants deported in fiscal year 2013 had been convicted of a federal or state crime, according to Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Of all those deported, 33% had committed at least one felony—crimes ranging from murder to failure to appear in court, or at least three misdemeanors. That means 152,000 immigrants were deported but did not have a criminal conviction. Another 95,000 were deported and had a criminal record that included no more than two misdemeanors.
In 2013, 59% of deported immigrants convicted of a crime
This is from Statistic Brain.
Convicted Criminals: 55%
Immigration Fugitives: 3%
Repeat Immigration Violators: 21%
Border Removal: 17%
Other Removable Aliens: 4%
Number of US Deportations
All these seem to conflict with each other but if the right wing is correct that 2/3rds were "apprehended while, or shortly after, attempting to illegally enter the United States", the other links then can make sense. For example, Pew Research indicates that about 1/3rd didn't have criminal convictions but if 2/3rd were caught at or near the border, it is likely that about 1/2 of those didn't have criminal convictions accounting for the majority of those deported without criminal records.
Apr 11th 2014, 4:54 am
#54
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Re: More deported for minor crimes
What they fail to mention is that many of those bounced at the Border just come in another day.
Apr 11th 2014, 6:56 am
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Re: More deported for minor crimes
Yes. Many states do. MA is about to let the illegals hold driving licences as well. American attitudes to illegals are very hard to understand; the cops just aren't bothered. If that was in England the police would get them arrested and in a custody cell until they were handed over to UKBA.
Apr 11th 2014, 10:59 am
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Re: More deported for minor crimes
Apr 11th 2014, 12:07 pm
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Re: More deported for minor crimes
I was reading an article where one politician is calling the Republicans racist because if the majority of the illegals were Irish, a bill would have already passed to keep them here.
Apr 11th 2014, 12:36 pm
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Re: More deported for minor crimes
What was your situation that Sally made reference to earlier out of interest? Are you an overstayer?
Apr 11th 2014, 12:49 pm
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Re: More deported for minor crimes
What was your situation that Sally made reference to earlier out of interest? I'm not following you who's Sally?