Making a Murderer
 

Many seen this Netflix doc yet?
While the main story asks plenty of questions, it is the story of the nephew that is flabbergasting. Convicted for murder with from what the docs shows us, zero evidence and no sign of a retrial. Just a coerced confession from a intellectually challenged teen. Now it seems to me, to now be common knowledge that confessions are unreliable, so how this even got to trial is a mystery to me. But all of the professionals involved seem to have little sens of what it might mean to act professionally. Even his own lawyer was working against him.

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Haven't seen this one, but have watched other programs on other people who have been convicted and later found to not have done it, and evidence manipulated and confessions coerced and such.

And your doubly up the creek if you can't afford a super powerful, well respected and pricey attorney.

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No, I haven't seen it but it reminds me of the West Memphis Three. Long after EVERYBODY knew they were innocent, they were still sitting in prison.

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I'm watching it, having to ration it out otherwise I'll binge watch it all and just explode with rage. Already had Mr Sarah shouting at the TV and ranting about power-mad cops.

The trust this country has in the PD and the justice system is completely crumbling and this doc series is another bunch of nails in the coffin. be interesting to see how, or if it gets worse or better.

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I just saw the trailer, may have to sign up for Netflix again and probably a VPN service to watch it, but looks interesting and worth watching.

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This was unbelievable. It just floored me. Just the actions of the officers, the DA,s and the sheriff when being questioned, watching them squirm just proved they were lying.

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I'm on episode 6 and I have steam coming out of my ears. :mad:

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I watched this show and was outraged at how unfair the criminal justice system could be but then I read an article that said the show left out crucial evidence that painted Stephen Avery in a bad light and I felt conned. Avery had apparently called Teresa 3 times that day and they had found his sweat on the hood of her car. His old prison cell mate also said that Avery talked about raping women and how he was going to set up a torture chamber. Now I don't know what to believe anymore.

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Yeah. Unlike the "Paradise Lost" / West Memphis 3 coverage which was extremely thorough, it seems like there was a fair amount left out of this documentary. Based on a very summary review of the evidence, to me it seems at the very least plausible that both Avery was guilty in killing Halbach and that the police tried to frame him. To me it's clear that the picture is certainly more nuanced than the one painted in the documentary. Avery is at best a seriously creepy dude but as far as I know that's not a jailable offense... Of course, I wasn't on the jury, so my opinion is likely invalid.

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Radio Lab, interview with the original victim and her response to finding out Avery had spent 18 years in gaol, based on her mistaken eye witness.
Reasonable Doubt - Radiolab

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Not judging but the whole family obviously lack any long term education and all appear to have low IQ's. This doesn't help them, which is very unfair.

I just cannot believe they had so many appeals turned down, especially when there was such a lack of physical evidence.

The only good thing to come out of it was the downfall of the creepy DA (that sounded like a woman)

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I started watching this with my wife on Sunday, just saw episode 10 last night. I spent half the time just staring open mouthed at the TV. I honestly didn't think before I started it that it would affect me that much but my wife (who started it before me) seemed to be really into it, so I gave it a go.

We have two men who were chewed up and spat out by a system that had decided they were guilty even before they set foot in court; one who has spent almost half his life in prison for at least one, but I feel two crimes he didn't commit and a boy of 16 who won't get out until his 50s, who I am certain had nothing whatsoever to do with the murder at all.

So many inconsistencies, I can't believe seven of those jurors were able to be strongarmed into changing their minds by the others.

Sorry, bit of a rant, but that show pissed me off.

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I'm just starting episode 5 after seeing this thread and a thread on another forum I use. All I can say is WTF?!?!?!?!

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You find yourself just wanting to yell at the TV, don't you?

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It's actually pretty scary stuff that what seems to be a complete frame job can actually happen.