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Old Aug 27th 2011, 1:32 am
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To those of you in the States, how long did it take til you altered your own pronunciation of 'can't'? I'll ask about the other 'c' word later
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
Americans don't seem to use the subjunctive much. They tend to use two conditionals.

"If the first baseman would have caught the ball, the batter would have been out." Instead of "If the first baseman had caught the ball, the batter would have been out."
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It's the weird pronunciation of "roof" that gets me. And "data" seems to vary between people as day-ta, dar-ta and datta (I always use the former, but never with the t=d American way)
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
Instead of "If the first baseman had caught the ball, the batter would have been out."
or "had of caught the ball"
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
or "had of caught the ball"
‘of’ for ‘have’ drives me spare. Here, at least, it's more common than not to hear things like:
He would of come if he would of been able to.

And I still remember Bill Clinton saying:
Give Al Gore and I a chance.

When Redford was interviewed for Out of Africa, he made a remark about working with Meryl Streep saying:
The chemistry between her and I ...

... and then he actually made it worse —when I didn't think that was possible— by re-iterating it as:
The chemistry between she and I ...
Thus proving he's a natural blond.
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Originally Posted by Christian
‘of’ for ‘have’ drives me spare. Here, at least, it's more common than not to hear things like:
He would of come if he would of been able to.

And I still remember Bill Clinton saying:
Give Al Gore and I a chance.

When Redford was interviewed for Out of Africa, he made a remark about working with Meryl Streep saying:
The chemistry between her and I ...

... and then he actually made it worse —when I didn't think that was possible— by re-iterating it as:
The chemistry between she and I ...
Thus proving he's a natural blond.
Ok, here we go again - blonde bashing! (And how do you spell 'blonde'?)
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Originally Posted by General Tojo
To those of you in the States, how long did it take til you altered your own pronunciation of 'can't'? I'll ask about the other 'c' word later
Well I've been here 25 years and I'm still saying can't the way I did in UK car-n't saying it as cant is too much like the other c word
But then I'm still known as the Mom with the accent at the local school
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Originally Posted by Christian
The chemistry between her and I ...

... and then he actually made it worse —when I didn't think that was possible— by re-iterating it as:
The chemistry between she and I ...
Thus proving he's a natural blond.
Maybe he was thinking of the Rastafarian "I and I".
Originally Posted by Egg and Cress
Ok, here we go again - blonde bashing! (And how do you spell 'blonde'?)
Blond for men and blonde for women.
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Originally Posted by Mummy in the foothills
Well I've been here 25 years and I'm still saying can't the way I did in UK car-n't saying it as cant is too much like the other c word
But then I'm still known as the Mom with the accent at the local school
Been here 15 and I still speak exactly the way I did when I arrived - cant's and all - not consciously trying to , I just think I sound like a pillock when I pronounce things the American way so try not to.
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Originally Posted by Englishman43
Been here 15 and I still speak exactly the way I did when I arrived - cant's and all - not consciously trying to , I just think I sound like a pillock when I pronounce things the American way so try not to.
Me too. I sound fake if I try to do it.
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Originally Posted by Egg and Cress
Ok, here we go again - blonde bashing! (And how do you spell 'blonde'?)
Originally Posted by Sally Redux
Blond for men and blonde for women.
Yes, exactly, and thank you Sally. I'm blond, (though greying now), and so spell it for myself. Diana Dors was blonde. Egg and Cress it's one of but a few adjectives in English that is gender specific, even the American Webster's Dictionary recognises this convention.
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
Maybe he was thinking of the Rastafarian "I and I".


Blond for men and blonde for women.
Well, I'll be "durned" - I didn't know that......
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Originally Posted by Mummy in the foothills
Me too. I sound fake if I try to do it.
My wife refuses to let me try anymore - says I sound like a cross between Johnny Cash, John Wayne and a Nascar driver
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One I don't like is 'ekscape', I hear it more on TV than from real people though.
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Originally Posted by Christian
Yes, exactly, and thank you Sally. I'm blond, (though greying now), and so spell it for myself. Diana Dors was blonde. Egg and Cress it's one of but a few adjectives in English that is gender specific, even the American Webster's Dictionary recognises this convention.
I honestly didn't realize there were gender specifics like this - thought it was only in other languages. I know the Polish language has those gender specifics, as does Spanish, but I didn't know about the American ones. (And I did look it up - but not in Webster's - in the Oxford Modern English Dictionary.) Thanks for the "English" lesson - guess I don't know as much as I thought I did!

Please note: I do know how to use apostrophes properly, though.
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