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Old May 7th 2010 | 3:11 am
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I remember reading it. My mum was in America for 3 weeks last year. I don't remember her commenting on any eating habits .... just how very big the portions were.
 
Old May 7th 2010 | 3:18 am
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Originally Posted by Dan725
Yep, what a pullaver. While the majority of Americans do seem to engage in this unnecessary faffing around, I have however met quite a few who seem to have adopted the "British method" of knife in one hand, fork in the other.
"British" now, is it?!
Since I learned it in Europe, it's always the 'European method' to me.
 
Old May 7th 2010 | 3:18 am
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Originally Posted by Rete
Hence the SPORK for the shovels among us
Just give me a large (soup) spoon and I can handle just about anything...if the meat is too tough to cut with the side of the spoon, it probably needed to picked up and gnawed off the bone anyway!
 
Old May 7th 2010 | 3:21 am
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Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP
That isn't it. Servers clear plates as quickly as possible because Americans get pissy when dirty plates are left on the table for too long.

The problem is that most Americans don't use the universal signal for indicating that we're finished (laying the knife and fork together on the plate), so the servers have to ask. They aren't trying to rush you, at least not most of the time.
Oh ffs, did you take a poll on your generalization? We don't all eat at Denny's for heaven's sake!
 
Old May 7th 2010 | 3:25 am
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Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP
That isn't it. Servers clear plates as quickly as possible because Americans get pissy when dirty plates are left on the table for too long.

The problem is that most Americans don't use the universal signal for indicating that we're finished (laying the knife and fork together on the plate), so the servers have to ask. They aren't trying to rush you, at least not most of the time.

And there, I think, lies the problem
 
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Originally Posted by ironporer
Just give me a large (soup) spoon and I can handle just about anything...if the meat is too tough to cut with the side of the spoon, it probably needed to picked up and gnawed off the bone anyway!
But what are you going to lie on the plate when you're done?
 
Old May 7th 2010 | 3:35 am
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My mum taught me that to push the plate out of the way was rude too
 
Old May 7th 2010 | 3:50 am
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Originally Posted by Trixie_b
The reuse of knives and forks bothers me.

Also, in resturants here, if one person finishes a meal before their companion, the plate is whipped away while the other person is still eating.

I can't remember if this happens in the UK

When it happens I just feel that it's rude, is that because all plates are left on the table in the UK until the last person has finished? or is it my imagination?
Originally Posted by Rete
Again a difference of opinion. I prefer that they remove my finished plate as soon as I'm done with it. I can then sit back and enjoy speaking with the rest of my dinner companions while others are still enjoying their appetitzer or whatever. However, if it is just two diners, then I would prefer they wait until both are finished or have indicated that the plates should be removed.
I agree this is just a difference of opinion / matter of taste. My visiting family complain about this, but I explain it's just the way it is done here - it is not done to rush people along. I personally prefer to see my plate removed once done, and my partner does not feel intimidated at all.

My personal gripe is when they try to clean the crumbs/etc off the table, expecting you to 'stand back' as it were ... at the end of a meal, I don't care if there are a few crumbs, I want to relax. Pausing the mood while some guy dutifully 'scrapes' the table is just an imposition, in my mind. But some folks appreciate it.
 
Old May 7th 2010 | 3:51 am
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Originally Posted by ironporer
Just give me a large (soup) spoon and I can handle just about anything...if the meat is too tough to cut with the side of the spoon, it probably needed to picked up and gnawed off the bone anyway!
That's how we did it in Indonesia...
 
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Originally Posted by AmerLisa
Oh ffs, did you take a poll on your generalization? We don't all eat at Denny's for heaven's sake!
In addition to working as a server in a nice restaurant back during my college days (during the Civil War), I also have occasionally had meals with Americans here in America.

And no, the cutlery "signal" is not common here at all. When I was doing the job, I was forever having to ask customers if they were finished because I couldn't tell, given that the silverware was all over the place and that most customers didn't eat everything that was served to them.

The standard for table manners in the US is certainly less stringent that you'll find in Europe. You can decide for yourself whether that's better, worse, or just different, but whatever it is, it is less formalized.
 
Old May 7th 2010 | 4:30 am
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Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP
In addition to working as a server in a nice restaurant back during my college days (during the Civil War), I also have occasionally had meals with Americans here in America.

And no, the cutlery "signal" is not common here at all. When I was doing the job, I was forever having to ask customers if they were finished because I couldn't tell, given that the silverware was all over the place and that most customers didn't eat everything that was served to them.

The standard for table manners in the US is certainly less stringent that you'll find in Europe. You can decide for yourself whether that's better, worse, or just different, but whatever it is, it is less formalized.
That might depend on where in Europe as Italians leave their knife and fork willy nilly on the plate and don't place them neatly together at 20 past or 25 past 6 clockwise
 
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Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP

The problem is that most Americans don't use the universal signal for indicating that we're finished (laying the knife and fork together on the plate), so the servers have to ask.
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That might depend on where in Europe as Italians leave their knife and fork willy nilly on the plate and don't place them neatly together at 20 past or 25 past 6 clockwise
OMG, this just tells me that too many people put too much formality into eating. I mean really? Somewhere people actually measure the exact placement they leave their silverware on their plate? That just seems way OTT to me. I guess I'm just not a formal person, and feel that too many people in this world take things way too seriously. Just leave your cutlery on the plate when you're done - what's so complicated about that?

Besides, I doubt many servers here would even know the 'universal signal' you all are speaking of.
 
Old May 7th 2010 | 5:33 am
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
I didn't know you weren't meant to put different foods on your fork.

This is all very complicated.
Makes eating spag bol a bit of a chore

Originally Posted by mikehope
I remember when I first had a meal with the American in laws and they were all staring at me eating, my wife later told me its because of how I use my knife and fork and I mix things together on the fork.
I thought that everyone ate that way till I really watched how most people use cutlery over here.
I was then thinking of the scene in "Kate and Leopold" where they are dining together, made sense of hop they were watching him eat.
What bugs me most is no-one here understands the word 'cutlery', they all say 'silverware'. Even the take-out places that give you plastic, call it bloody 'silverware':curse:
 
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Originally Posted by N1cky
What bugs me most is no-one here understands the word 'cutlery', they all say 'silverware'. Even the take-out places that give you plastic, call it bloody 'silverware':curse:
Or flatware. I mean, what the duck's that about? :curse:
 
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Originally Posted by sunflwrgrl13
OMG, this just tells me that too many people put too much formality into eating. I mean really? Somewhere people actually measure the exact placement they leave their silverware on their plate? That just seems way OTT to me. I guess I'm just not a formal person, and feel that too many people in this world take things way too seriously. Just leave your cutlery on the plate when you're done - what's so complicated about that?

Besides, I doubt many servers here would even know the 'universal signal' you all are speaking of.
Errmmm While I accept that everyone has their own style I love eating out and dining out. I think there should be some ceremony over food, even when your at home.
I love food and someone has gone to a great deal of effort to present it to me.

How you hold your knife and fork, even how you lay out your cutlery is slightly different to in other countries, most notably the US, I disagree that its personal preference, I suspect it's parental preference.

I have a friend who stabs her food to her plate to cut it. It's like a toddler eating badly, but that's OK in this country. My husband, does not stab the food like that is also horrified, and has been practicing squishing peas on to his fork like I do...
 


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