Lion in Winter

Punching out the Nazis.



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dc koop

They weren't erected in the immediate aftermath of the civil war because the south had largely been laid waste by the war. Properties had been destroyed, the city of Atlanta burned to the ground, fields that had once grown crops made barren, livestock confiscated. Suggested reading... General Sherman's march to the sea. The former Confederate States were an utterly defeated entity in every way with much of it's younger and even older men either dead or in prison camps. It's easy to see why the average southerner was more concerned about salvaging whatever he or she had and trying merely to survive rather than building statues, Must have been the last thing on anyone's mind, even the mind of Bedford Forrest,

If the statues were built much later on it must have had something to do with the healing process that took decades to achieve. The last of the southern civil war adult generation probably finally died out as late as the late 20s or early 30s and the bitterness was still there amongst many of them. Reuniting the country was probably the main concern of many politicians at the time and there was no way that any Washington politician could hope to change the biased attitude of the white southerner towards black people and the newly freed black person was in for a long hard haul if he or she wanted to remain living in the southern States.

Slaves were regarded as property and it was the question of State's property rights that was the root cause of the civil war. Why even Thomas Jefferson and George Washington were slave owners. Do we pull down their statues?

The very existence of the newly formed United States after independence from Britain hung on the balance of the slave states of the south joining the union.

It's what was regarded as the expediency of the times to solve a particular problem that mattered. What we think now has little relevancy of any kind when it comes to history.

dc koop

I can well imagine the feelings of the few WW2 veterans left amongst us.

dc koop

No one should be punching anyone out. Time to grow up and act like rational human beings

mikelincs

Tell that to the people marching with guns..

robin1234

“Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited…”. It is “…not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.”

“Nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.”

District of Columbia v. Heller, the majority opinion written by Scalia.

Sensitive places - like a public meeting or Nazi demonstration? Time to seriously think about limits to the second amendment, in the context of militias, Nazis and other organised murderous groups. How about body armour and helmets? Ban them?

It's the responsibility of the government to keep the streets safe for citizens in their day to day activities. My guess is that the Nazis have been emboldened by President Dumbass, and this weekend they plan to kill more than one person.

kimilseung

Its like this is a joke, but it looks like him to me.

Leslie

How original.

If I wanted to hear a tired old KKK apologist speech I would just listen to Trump's news conference.

Giantaxe

I particularly "liked" dckoop's

"If the statues were built much later on it must have had something to do with the healing process that took decades to achieve."

Yeh, and absolutely nothing to do with the Jim Crow and Civil Rights eras the statue building coincided with. Sheesh.

kimilseung

If anything good comes from Trumps words it just might be a fresh look at
some of these founding fathers. Listening to the radio it does seem like a small conversation has started on the matter. It is to everyone benefit that national myths are looked at and reevaluated.

Leslie

I was going to pick apart the ridiculous post but why should I? He's just pulling stuff right straight out of his ass.

Leslie

Not such a tough guy after all. He's the same one that said, "Lots more people will die before this is over." and "People die every day."

now ...

"But I don't want to die!!"

Octang Frye

Time to seriously think about limits to the Second Amendment? Why?
I keep reading about ZOMG people with "automatic" guns! Who was shot?

But, but (cue the usual liberal argument), they'll be blood in the streets! Open carry? ZOMG! Bloodbath! Castle doctrine? Bloodbath! Won't someone think of the children!

This is amazing to me, how a handful of self-proclaimed neo-Nazis, have been magically propelled into a "dark wave of evil" that's about to envelop the country. This is fueled by an increasingly irrelevant mainstream media who is aghast at its demise and is thrashing about whipping up a hate narrative.

Trump, while making a really bad political gaffe by mentioning the extreme left - whose numbers greatly outweigh those of the extreme right - was right. Have you been following the Soros funded antifa rabble who've been bused in around the country to cause trouble?

It's amusing to see elements on the left now lamenting the gun control laws and restrictions they've pushed so hard for...

Witness Yishan Wong, former CEO or strong left-biased Reddit. (Nice how he equates/slights all conservatives as neo-Nazis...)
From his facebook page:

To my well-meaning fellow liberal friends who support gun control:
Below is a screenshot of the white supremacists' reaction to Trump's statements about the rally at UVA.
Nazis are HERE, in America. They showed themselves last night in a torchlight parade no different than the ones in 1933.
Stop voting to disarm yourselves. Stop supporting laws that take away YOUR right to defend yourself and your loved ones.
As a woman, as someone who is LGBT, as someone who is black, brown, yellow, Muslim, or Jewish - why should you have to live in fear?
It is not straight white men who need guns to defend themselves against oppressors and criminals. YOU do. THEY have the system. THEY have judges, police, and presidents who look like them.
Can you count on that system to protect you?
A gun is not a magical evil object to be feared. It is wielded by a person. It is also not a talisman that will magically protect you. You protect YOURSELF by learning the skills and confidence to wield it. Your willingness to learn and practice is what turns a risky object into a powerful asset. It allows YOU to protect yourself and your loved ones.
We tried at the ballot box. We failed. We tried with protests. We failed. They forces of darkness grow stronger. The Nazis are in your country RIGHT NOW. Will you wait until there is open violence? By then it will be too late. The right to bear AND TRAIN with arms is the last and final right given to us, to any minority, to preserve life and liberty against oppression in our democracy.
The Nazis are here. Today. Perhaps somehow things will just "get better." But we don't know that for sure, and if the worst comes to pass - well then, if you could look back in hindsight, wouldn't you do everything necessary to prepare?
If you and all your liberal friends were well-armed and trained, you could laugh at those lame-ass losers. Let them come try, you'd say. Instead, they laugh at YOU, because they're the ones with guns and you've been busy giving them up all this time.
Stop giving up the right to defend yourself! CLAIM IT instead!
Acquire and learn how to use a firearm safely. Your life and that of your loved ones may depend on it.


What a time to be alive!

ian-mstm

"Were I unwed, I would take you in a manly fashion." - Wash, Firefly (S.1, Ep.12)

Ian

Giantaxe

Just because Alex Jones is saying that Soros funds antifa, it doesn't actually mean he actually is.