Homeland Security raid Maternity Hotel
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Re: Homeland Security raid Maternity Hotel
Contrived
adjective
1. obviously planned or forced; artificial; strained: a contrived story.
And that question meets that definition.
Like I said originally, bollocks to the IMF. Chile and Argentina are in the same ballpark as Portugal and I don't think too many people would argue that Portugal is not a developed country.
adjective
1. obviously planned or forced; artificial; strained: a contrived story.
And that question meets that definition.
Like I said originally, bollocks to the IMF. Chile and Argentina are in the same ballpark as Portugal and I don't think too many people would argue that Portugal is not a developed country.
The reason this "birther" tourism is happening is because of perception caused by marketing.
Last edited by BritInParis; Jan 17th 2018 at 10:06 pm. Reason: Typo
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Re: Homeland Security raid Maternity Hotel
Again, you may not like the IMF definition, but it's a perfectly reasonable metric to us given the nature of the organisation. The World Bank would disagree with the IMF and include Chile but then their list is twice as long.
It's happening because US citizenship is valued for the future education opportunities it provides. Ambitious Korean and Chinese parents want their children to have an English language education.
It's happening because US citizenship is valued for the future education opportunities it provides. Ambitious Korean and Chinese parents want their children to have an English language education.
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The F1 comes with all sorts of strings attached - cost, medicals, academic performance, English language knowledge, temporary status - that a US passport simply doesn't. Attending a public high school on a F1 visa means paying the full per capita costs of your study. A US citizen would get the same education for free.
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Someone at some point looked into these lists and especially chose the IMF list because it fit their agenda. It's misleading.
Look I'm sure Chinese people etc. think having US citizenship for their kids is wonderful, but it's really a triumph of marketing over reality because I'm sure the schools in Shanghai are better.
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But it's not, that's my basic point. Generally you use the OECD list to compare countries, I've heard this "IMF" comparison used before, and it's a contrived way of doing it in order to imply that Canada and the US are somehow shockingly different and naive. In reality nearly every country in the Americas has jus soli citizenship and plenty of those countries are perfectly nice places that are reasonably well developed, Costa Rica, Ecuador, Chile, etc.
Someone at some point looked into these lists and especially chose the IMF list because it fit their agenda. It's misleading.
Someone at some point looked into these lists and especially chose the IMF list because it fit their agenda. It's misleading.
Look I'm sure Chinese people etc. think having US citizenship for their kids is wonderful, but it's really a triumph of marketing over reality because I'm sure the schools in Shanghai are better.
Last edited by BritInParis; Jan 19th 2018 at 12:32 am. Reason: Typo
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Re: Homeland Security raid Maternity Hotel
When I lived and worked in Saudi Arabia 1996 -2011 I came across quite a few Saudis who had been born in the USA when their parents were in the States as students or similar. Most had US passports but many were reluctant to discuss this. The Saudi Government is not happy with its nationals having claims to other citizenships.