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markwm Mar 30th 2012 6:02 am

Re: First anti-immigrant encounter
 
Anthropogenic

Originally Posted by Ethelred_the_Unready (Post 9980681)
global warming doesn't exist.

Correct.

(Sorry: couldn't help myself :))

Ethelred_the_Unready Mar 30th 2012 6:18 am

Re: First anti-immigrant encounter
 

Originally Posted by markwm (Post 9980718)
Anthropogenic

Correct.

(Sorry: couldn't help myself :))

How American of you LOL.

Anian Mar 30th 2012 6:42 am

Re: First anti-immigrant encounter
 
I used to often get comments about how the Americans sent over lots of rifles to help the UK during WW2 and didn't get them back. I looked this up and found out that the British government bought them from the US, and actually finished off paying for them in 2004 due to the long loan terms. So after that I told them that if they wanted them back they'd have to buy them back. I guess this got around since I haven't been asked about it since!

markwm Mar 30th 2012 7:43 am

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Originally Posted by Anian (Post 9980772)
I used to often get comments about how the Americans sent over lots of rifles to help the UK during WW2 and didn't get them back. I looked this up and found out that the British government bought them from the US, and actually finished off paying for them in 2004 due to the long loan terms. So after that I told them that if they wanted them back they'd have to buy them back. I guess this got around since I haven't been asked about it since!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease

Uncle Ebenezer Mar 30th 2012 8:19 am

Re: First anti-immigrant encounter
 

Originally Posted by Anian (Post 9980772)
I used to often get comments about how the Americans sent over lots of rifles to help the UK during WW2 and didn't get them back. I looked this up and found out that the British government bought them from the US, and actually finished off paying for them in 2004 due to the long loan terms. So after that I told them that if they wanted them back they'd have to buy them back. I guess this got around since I haven't been asked about it since!


Originally Posted by markwm (Post 9980869)

90% discount, interest free, over 65 years is pretty much the same as a gift, isn't it?

Lion in Winter Mar 30th 2012 8:23 am

Re: First anti-immigrant encounter
 

Originally Posted by Uncle Ebenezer (Post 9980940)
90% discount, interest free, over 65 years is pretty much the same as a gift, isn't it?

I'd be more sympathetic if they hadn't been three years late to the party.

Uncle Ebenezer Mar 30th 2012 8:25 am

Re: First anti-immigrant encounter
 

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 9980945)
I'd be more sympathetic if they hadn't been three years late to the party.

Strange how, looking back to WW2, most people blame the USA for not being the world's police force and being reticent to join the war. How times change. :sneaky:

Lion in Winter Mar 30th 2012 8:29 am

Re: First anti-immigrant encounter
 

Originally Posted by Uncle Ebenezer (Post 9980949)
Strange how, looking back to WW2, most people blame the USA for not being the world's police force and being reticent to join the war. How times change. :sneaky:


Didn't want them to be the world's police force. Wanted them to help save large swathes of the world from immediate fascism and death.

The military operations the US now engages in are very different, from the most part, and often tend to be connected both to supporting right-wing regimes and to the location of petroleum products. Not quite the same thing.

Uncle Ebenezer Mar 30th 2012 8:31 am

Re: First anti-immigrant encounter
 

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 9980959)
Didn't want them to be the world's police force. Wanted them to help save large swathes of the world from immediate fascism and death.

The military operations the US now engages in are very different, from the most part, and often tend to be connected both to supporting right-wing regimes and to the location of petroleum products. Not quite the same thing.

Of course it's not.

Lion in Winter Mar 30th 2012 8:35 am

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Originally Posted by Uncle Ebenezer (Post 9980964)
Of course it's not.

Well, that clears that up then.

markwm Mar 30th 2012 9:12 am

Re: First anti-immigrant encounter
 

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 9980945)
I'd be more sympathetic if they hadn't been three years late to the party.

They weren't three years late and it wasn't a party. The world was a very different place back then and the US was becoming quite isolationist with no thirst for another overseas war like WWI. In any case if Japan hadn't attacked they would have probably stayed out and it is unlikely that the UK would have mounted an invasion on it's own. That would have meant allowing Hitler free reign in the East and he may well have defeated Russia leaving the UK open to attack at leisure. As it is without the intervention of the US the war would have dragged on much longer. As the Japanese admiral commanding the fleet that attacked Pearl Harbor is reputed to have said: "We have awoken a slumbering giant" (actually there is no evidence that he really said that but it's a great line).

Sally Redux Mar 30th 2012 9:18 am

Re: First anti-immigrant encounter
 

Originally Posted by markwm (Post 9981027)
They weren't three years late and it wasn't a party. The world was a very different place back then and the US was becoming quite isolationist with no thirst for another overseas war like WWI. In any case if Japan hadn't attacked they would have probably stayed out and it is unlikely that the UK would have mounted an invasion on it's own. That would have meant allowing Hitler free reign in the East and he may well have defeated Russia leaving the UK open to attack at leisure. As it is without the intervention of the US the war would have dragged on much longer. As the Japanese admiral commanding the fleet that attacked Pearl Harbor is reputed to have said: "We have awoken a slumbering giant" (actually there is no evidence that he really said that but it's a great line).

How late were they then?

SultanOfSwing Mar 30th 2012 9:21 am

Re: First anti-immigrant encounter
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 9981041)
How late were they then?

Two

Sally Redux Mar 30th 2012 9:24 am

Re: First anti-immigrant encounter
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 9981052)
Two

That's right. Thanks.

Uncle Ebenezer Mar 30th 2012 9:24 am

Re: First anti-immigrant encounter
 
Maybe their invitation got lost in the post. It happens to me all the time. :cry_smile:


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