DeltaSierra70

Interesting... Must add, I am a Life member of the NRA, and overseas member of the Original NRA in Bisley, Founder Member of the National Pistol Association, and others that I won't bore you with; and a 'Sworn Deputy' in Georgia

ottotheboar

Definatelty ship them separately from your household effects , and go the the county / city / state where you intend to live and find an FFL who has actually imported guns. We are in rural Virginia and for some guns you have to be photographed and fingerprinted.

DeltaSierra70

Best advice yet! I would only add, "Don't contact BAFTE" let the FFL guy handle that.

Fabian23

I would be in the Alexandria area of VA. I do have handguns because I don't reside in the UK. I skipped out of blighty before really getting into shooting/collecting. I am a license holder in the Netherlands.

I have two handguns I wish to send over, both of which are pre-WW1, and two vintage military rifles from the 1950s.

DeltaSierra70

As they will be classified as 'Antiques' the handguns shouldn't be a problem, and as they cross the Atlantic, their value will increase significantly.
Same goes for the rifles, and their increase in value will depend on condition and Country of Origin.
Gun ownership is a good and useful hobby.

DeltaSierra70

We don't have that in GA. What we do have is a 3 year Concealed Carry Licence that can be used to buy any legal firearm without waiting. There's an Atlanta 800 number that the dealer calls, enters you CCL number and the computer says either yes or no. And that's it.

RickWG

Sheer lunacy would be a better description... because, yanno, 22,000 different gun laws in the US just isn't enough..

Bob

But depending on the state, most don't amount to anything.

Amusingly enough, and this is just because it was such a weird conversation that was so cavalier to be walking past at a toddlers get together, but one mother was saying it's just so much cheaper to get a gun and it's almost free to get a carry permit than paying ADT their monthly fee for home security that they were considering it even though she's never even had a gun...and those folks live in a uber swanky gated community, oh the riff raff that might get let into their cul-de-sac

DeltaSierra70

In these hard times, its not only poor people thinking about B&E.

RickWG

Well there ain't much money to be made robbing hovels in the ghetto...

Bob

True, but there are loads of swanky big homes in the burbs that'll be easier to get at than a walled in, gated with a guard one

RickWG

The walls/gates only work for about 4 or 5 years, after that the private communities crime rate matches the surrounding areas...

S Folinsky

Take a look at section 237(a)(2)(C) of the Immigration & Nationality Act:

"(C) Certain firearm offenses.-Any alien who at any time after admission is convicted under any law of purchasing, selling, offering for sale, exchanging, using, owning, possessing, or carrying, or of attempting or conspiring to purchase, sell, offer for sale, exchange, use, own, possess, or carry, any weapon, part, or accessory which is a firearm or destructive device (as defined in section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code) in violation of any law is deportable."

There is no waiver available for this section. The only way around it is by re-immigrating, if you can.

Ohio556

What if one of his handguns is a machine pistol, i.e. a fully-automatic variant of the C-96 "Broomhandle" Mauser? It would still fall under the NFA due to being fully-automatic.

Ohio556

Are you going to back that statement up with some facts or at least some opinions or just make a blanket statement and expect everybody to take it at face value?


The Brady Bill is one of the worst pieces of unconstitutional legislation ever forced upon the American people.

Mainly dealing with background checks on prohibited persons, but what is a prohibited person (let's look to the 1968 GCA)...


Prohibited persons...

1. Has been convicted in any court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year;
2. Is a fugitive from justice;
3. Is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance;
4. Has been adjudicated as a mental defective or committed to a mental institution;
5. Is an alien illegally or unlawfully in the United States;
6. Has been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions;
7. Having been a citizen of the United States, has renounced U.S. citizenship;
8. Is subject to a court order that restrains the person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner or child of such intimate partner, or;
9. Has been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence.
10. Has a record of being a felon



Let's see about those, point by point, beginning with number one...


1- If somebody has served their time in prison it shouldn't matter if they were in for more than one year... If they were released it must be because the justice system is judging them fit to return to normal society and function as a productive citizen. Why should somebody perpetually be a second class citizen, stripped of their rights, just because they spent time in prison. If they are too dangerous to trust with a firearm then they are too dangerous to be in normal society.


2- Why would anybody admit to being a fugitive from justice? This portion of the law is feel-good nonsense.


3- Somebody who uses a substance the government has made illegal is now to be stripped of their inalienable God given rights that are specifically enshrined in the Constitution?


4- If you were adjudicated mentally defective and sent to asylum but have since been released doesn't that suggest that expert mental health professionals have pronounced their judgement that you are neither a threat to your or others, or else you would still be in the asylum, right?


5- If you're an illegal alien or you are unlawfully in the USA you should be subject to immediate arrest and deportation. However, why would anybody who is here illegally admit to it on a form when buying a gun? Wouldn't they just lie and break more one law since they already broke plenty of laws by coming here illegally and residing here illegally?


6- Being booted out of the military via a dishonorable discharge is hardly adequate reason to be stripped of your Constitutional rights. If you lose or damage certain issued geared (i.e. your rifle for instance) you can easily be dishonorably discharged. Also if you gain too much weight and are unable to lose it within a certain amount of time you will be discharged for "failure to comply" which is certainly not honorable.


7- People renounce their citizenship for various reasons (often tax reasons) and sometimes they regret those reasons. Some people are political radicals when they are young and think they know everything and they move to some "socialist paradise" nation, renounce their citizenship, and prepare to live life in some collectivist disneyland, only to learn over the next ten years that the place isn't a paradise, they then want to come home. The prodigal son was welcomed home and treated well by his father, is the USA so vindictive that it has to strip the Constitutional rights of those who were citizens, renounced what they had, and then went through the legal methods to regain their citizenship?


8- Restraining orders are given out like cotton candy, ask for one and you get one, it is a standard tactic in almost any divorce case, especially if children are involved. Aside from not being worth the paper they are printed on, they don't mean much because most guys going through a divorce will have a restraining order issued against them.


9- Since when do people lose their Constitutional rights over a misdemeanor? Raise your voice with your wife in public and some bystander doesn't like what he/she observed, suddenly the police are called and BAM you're a domestic violence offender... It often is just that easy.


10- Felony record? See item number one... If you've done your time that should be the end of it.


The 1934 NFA, 1968 GCA, 1986 FOPA Hughes Amendment, and the 1994 Brady Bill are all unconstitutional, unnecessary, and antithetical to a free society founded as a Constitutional Republic. Those atrocities masquerading as legislation should be anathema to the masses.