Children becoming USC through naturalization
May 1st 2008, 3:00 pm
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Children becoming USC through naturalization
This is just a thought that occurred to me the other day.
When my N-400 goes through and I wave the little flag and become a USC, does my 14yo daughter becomes a USC automatically??
And what if she doesn't want to be? Can a minor become a USC against their will?
When my N-400 goes through and I wave the little flag and become a USC, does my 14yo daughter becomes a USC automatically??
And what if she doesn't want to be? Can a minor become a USC against their will?
May 1st 2008, 3:35 pm
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Re: Children becoming USC through naturalization
Yes, she becomes a USC automatically and can apply for a US Passport at the same time that you do.
If she chooses not to be a US Citizen, then when she reaches adulthood, she can denounce her US citizenship in the prescribed manner.
May 1st 2008, 3:41 pm
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Re: Children becoming USC through naturalization
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May 1st 2008, 4:21 pm
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Re: Children becoming USC through naturalization
I like "re"nounce better
Although when it is renounced it is also because the person is denouncing the US.As for the green card, no hers does not get turned in simply because she will not be dealing with the USCIS but the US Passport Agency. She would be issued a passport based on her relationship to you and the fact that she is a PR. So she would need her birth certificate listing you as her father, your naturalization certificate (original not a copy), her green card and the passport application.
May 2nd 2008, 1:31 pm
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Re: Children becoming USC through naturalization
I like "re"nounce better Although when it is renounced it is also because the person is denouncing the US.
As for the green card, no hers does not get turned in simply because she will not be dealing with the USCIS but the US Passport Agency. She would be issued a passport based on her relationship to you and the fact that she is a PR. So she would need her birth certificate listing you as her father, your naturalization certificate (original not a copy), her green card and the passport application.
Although when it is renounced it is also because the person is denouncing the US.As for the green card, no hers does not get turned in simply because she will not be dealing with the USCIS but the US Passport Agency. She would be issued a passport based on her relationship to you and the fact that she is a PR. So she would need her birth certificate listing you as her father, your naturalization certificate (original not a copy), her green card and the passport application.
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May 2nd 2008, 2:31 pm
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Re: Children becoming USC through naturalization
She will become a USC and USC's have to use a passport when entering the US (with few exceptions which are being fased out, i.e. entering from Canada).
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May 2nd 2008, 3:28 pm
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Re: Children becoming USC through naturalization
This isn't necessarily that automatic. The under 18 child has to live with the parent naturalizing.
When my son's father naturalized, I tried to get son naturalized too. Even then applied to USCIS.
But son's naturalization was denied. Reason - the child has to live with father; that is the father has to be the custodial parent if the parents are divorced.
When my son's father naturalized, I tried to get son naturalized too. Even then applied to USCIS.
But son's naturalization was denied. Reason - the child has to live with father; that is the father has to be the custodial parent if the parents are divorced.
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May 2nd 2008, 3:39 pm
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Re: Children becoming USC through naturalization
This isn't necessarily that automatic. The under 18 child has to live with the parent naturalizing.
When my son's father naturalized, I tried to get son naturalized too. Even then applied to USCIS.
But son's naturalization was denied. Reason - the child has to live with father; that is the father has to be the custodial parent if the parents are divorced.
When my son's father naturalized, I tried to get son naturalized too. Even then applied to USCIS.
But son's naturalization was denied. Reason - the child has to live with father; that is the father has to be the custodial parent if the parents are divorced.
The child has to live with the custodial parent, be it the mother or the father. The custodial parent has to be the one becoming a US and the child has to have permanent residency in the US. If both these criteria are met, then the child is a US citizen and requires a US passport to travel.
May 2nd 2008, 3:40 pm
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Re: Children becoming USC through naturalization
This isn't necessarily that automatic. The under 18 child has to live with the parent naturalizing.
When my son's father naturalized, I tried to get son naturalized too. Even then applied to USCIS.
But son's naturalization was denied. Reason - the child has to live with father; that is the father has to be the custodial parent if the parents are divorced.
When my son's father naturalized, I tried to get son naturalized too. Even then applied to USCIS.
But son's naturalization was denied. Reason - the child has to live with father; that is the father has to be the custodial parent if the parents are divorced.
So what you are saying is that your son lived with you, you were not naturalizing and you have sole custody of the child.
It does not matter if the custodial parent is the mother or the father. It only matters that the custodial parent is the one naturalizing.
May 2nd 2008, 3:48 pm
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Re: Children becoming USC through naturalization
The child has to live with the custodial parent, be it the mother or the father. The custodial parent has to be the one becoming a US and the child has to have permanent residency in the US. If both these criteria are met, then the child is a US citizen and requires a US passport to travel.
It does seem that as per my original post, my daughter gets to be a USC whether she likes it or not
I'm pretty sure that she is OK with that, I just thought it was an interesting scenario.
Just out of interest, at what age could she renounce, 18 or 21 ???
May 2nd 2008, 3:59 pm
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Re: Children becoming USC through naturalization
That is certainly my case. My daughter lives with me and is a LPR.
It does seem that as per my original post, my daughter gets to be a USC whether she likes it or not
I'm pretty sure that she is OK with that, I just thought it was an interesting scenario.
Just out of interest, at what age could she renounce, 18 or 21 ???
It does seem that as per my original post, my daughter gets to be a USC whether she likes it or not
I'm pretty sure that she is OK with that, I just thought it was an interesting scenario.
Just out of interest, at what age could she renounce, 18 or 21 ???
I believe it is 21.
May 2nd 2008, 4:01 pm
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Re: Children becoming USC through naturalization
Yes Rete of course you are right. I typed that out in a hurry from my personal situation at that time
May 2nd 2008, 7:35 pm
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Re: Children becoming USC through naturalization
This isn't necessarily that automatic. The under 18 child has to live with the parent naturalizing.
When my son's father naturalized, I tried to get son naturalized too. Even then applied to USCIS.
But son's naturalization was denied. Reason - the child has to live with father; that is the father has to be the custodial parent if the parents are divorced.
When my son's father naturalized, I tried to get son naturalized too. Even then applied to USCIS.
But son's naturalization was denied. Reason - the child has to live with father; that is the father has to be the custodial parent if the parents are divorced.
May 3rd 2008, 1:26 am
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Re: Children becoming USC through naturalization
No minimum age limit in theory but in practice they would be unlikely to let someone under 18 renounce:
http://travel.state.gov/law/citizens...nship_776.html
Why on earth she would want to do something so drastic (and irreversible) is another question entirely.
http://travel.state.gov/law/citizens...nship_776.html
Why on earth she would want to do something so drastic (and irreversible) is another question entirely.