California Obamacare rates to rise 13% in 2017, more than 3 times the increase of las
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Trump can't even unite his own party. The convention that was supposed to crown him as their leader is just a circus of dissent. The alternative to President Trump may not be pretty, but I'll take it over the craziness that Trump would bring.
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I am pretty sure that is meaningless drivel
So you don't "know", and don't "remember", so you're just gonna make crap up to fit your agenda.
.... the Republicans were probably telling FDR .....
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Not even Speaker John Boehner could handle them. In the end that's why he quit in disgust
Didn't Sarah Palin tell the first Tea Party members elected to Congress "to make sure that Obama was going to be a one term president"?
As for Trump he's a disaster before he even takes office. He's not capable of forming any policy on the middle east since he's alienated just about 90 percent of the Muslim world. ISIS must really love that guy. As for Europe he's also created a feeling of suspicion and hostility with his pro-Brexit remarks. In short the man is disliked and regarded with suspicion throughout the international community and worse still thought of as a buffoon. I would also add to that last comment that he's an out and out isolationist
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Re: California Obamacare rates to rise 13% in 2017, more than 3 times the increase of
Since where has anybody here supported Trump?
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You deserve Trump. The only sad part is that those who don't deserve him will end up going down the same shit hole. Still how much damage could he do in 4 short years anyway ?
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If for example he's going to create the kind of military he says he is then the sheer cost will necessitate eliminating other programs, either that or he will have to end up raising taxes
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Re: California Obamacare rates to rise 13% in 2017, more than 3 times the increase of
As for Trump he's a disaster before he even takes office. He's not capable of forming any policy on the middle east since he's alienated just about 90 percent of the Muslim world. ISIS must really love that guy. As for Europe he's also created a feeling of suspicion and hostility with his pro-Brexit remarks. In short the man is disliked and regarded with suspicion throughout the international community and worse still thought of as a buffoon. I would also add to that last comment that he's an out and out isolationist
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So starting a thread about the poor political timing of an announced increase in healthcare premiums is not inviting political commentary?
How about tuning up that throwing arm with all these stones lying around your glass house?
I have no horse in this race as I live in the world of government-mandated single-payer insurance, but the hypocrisy of your comment was rather too blatant to pass up...
How about tuning up that throwing arm with all these stones lying around your glass house?
I have no horse in this race as I live in the world of government-mandated single-payer insurance, but the hypocrisy of your comment was rather too blatant to pass up...
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A lot of the healthcare companies are stockpiling cash. This is not very transparent due to most being not for profit and don't have to publish accounts.
And if you want unfair, look at prop 13. The old generation are contributing virtually nothing and the millennials can't afford to buy anything.
And if you want unfair, look at prop 13. The old generation are contributing virtually nothing and the millennials can't afford to buy anything.
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As for Europe he's also created a feeling of suspicion and hostility with his pro-Brexit remarks. In short the man is disliked and regarded with suspicion throughout the international community and worse still thought of as a buffoon. I would also add to that last comment that he's an out and out isolationist
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Re: California Obamacare rates to rise 13% in 2017, more than 3 times the increase of
So starting a thread about the poor political timing of an announced increase in healthcare premiums is not inviting political commentary?
How about tuning up that throwing arm with all these stones lying around your glass house?
I have no horse in this race as I live in the world of government-mandated single-payer insurance, but the hypocrisy of your comment was rather too blatant to pass up...
How about tuning up that throwing arm with all these stones lying around your glass house?
I have no horse in this race as I live in the world of government-mandated single-payer insurance, but the hypocrisy of your comment was rather too blatant to pass up...
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i think the voters care more about personal mail servers and Benghazi. Who gives a damn about the ACA
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Re: California Obamacare rates to rise 13% in 2017, more than 3 times the increase of
1. Hospital emergency rooms treat people without insurance, much more than that good luck.
2. I have never met anyone who stated they wouldn't get health insurance because all their medical needs would be met at the emergency room.
3. Many of the "new" jobs we hear about are very low wage jobs , if you are making $10 an hour , and considering how much insurance premiums have risen , hardly affordable to have a decent medical insurance policy.
Clearly Obamacare was well intentioned to address the medical insurance problem which is perhaps the worst in the industrialized world, though like many government programs it is becoming extremely costly and inefficient. The Republicans have no offered any realistic alternative. Simply the cost of medical care in the United States is beyond belief. If no control on costs, there wont be a reasonable solution.
I know someone on Obama care, the premium is $1,200 a month, they pay $200 a month, guess who pays the $1,000 ? The insurance companies must be making a mint on all this.
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If Trump follows up on his agenda his spending will eclipse any spending by the Dems over the last twenty years. I don't think the man even knows how to manage his own money. He may well be far less rich than he claims, have a mountain of debt, That's conjecture of course but his hesitation and reticence when it comes to making his tax returns public says a lot.
If for example he's going to create the kind of military he says he is then the sheer cost will necessitate eliminating other programs, either that or he will have to end up raising taxes
If for example he's going to create the kind of military he says he is then the sheer cost will necessitate eliminating other programs, either that or he will have to end up raising taxes
Maybe the average person makes judgements within knowing what is on the tax forms, but journalists should or rather "editorialists" should know better.